No such thing as perfect or even good framing? It's getting really hard not to just be mean to you now, GMG. You're another example of someone who doesn't even know what they don't know. The problem is your ignorance is aggressive, which is borderline stupid. You can do something about being ignorant. Stupid is a bigger deal.

The real problem here is you need to educate yourself. I can only assume this is the ultimate result of the post Reagan-era education system completely gutting Art and Humanities studies in the public school system. The stuff you're saying is completely wrong but it puts everything else I've observed into perspective now.

Until then, whatever success you might have, whatever images you take that aren't completely hideous, will be through accident. You won't even recognize what's right about them. It's obvious you don't understand composition, or typography or any number of other design elements...what's worse is you don't value the principles that go into making things "right". The basic principles of design cross all cultures (revealing universal truths), like music. To subvert them you must first understand them. Subversion through ignorance is just sloppy, random works and unworthy of any discussion. They are the noise of mediocrity that permeates modern culture with access to all kinds of "things".

Forget learning more about photography and cinematography, you need to learn about design. That will improve all other aspects of your work and enrich your life.

I think there's a typo in the title of this thread, fix below:

RAW makes obsolete all your skull

@spacewig yeah, definately a typo :)

@BurnetRhoades

Very well said. Unfortunately, as you see, it doesn't reach him. Maybe it's time to close this thread before the guy get's even more attention...

No, I want to set new time record for the topic to reach 1K posts. :-)

:)

There is no definition of "pro". Certainly someone who makes all their money doing art shows, has no day job, doesn't do weddings, doesn't do corporate, magazines, etc, is a very rare and probably very, very skilled photographer or videographer. Maybe they just have a patron. But that doesn't make them a "pro" and the person who does family portraits a mid-level hack, and it doesn't make the person who does the soap commercials an artist. No matter how you slice it, the respect of your peers is most of what a pro is, and you can't quantify that, can't define it. And there will always be people out on the fringe who have no respect who will surprise everyone. The soap guy might say, I love soap. Soap is art. http://www.thenovastudio.com/images/david_transparent_soap_hand.jpg

@drdave

i fully understand. I just seen a picture that was in an art gallery of a group of barbie dolls having an orgy.

for fun, you can type "barbie orgy" in google images.

skip to about 3:25

riff raff would be another good example of somebody that doesn't really have much skill musically, but makes hundreds of thousands of dollars doing it. is he professional or not?

Recently I gave 1000 monkeys each a point and shoot cam with Raw capability. By next weekend I expect all the monkeys to be Homo Sapiens.

@GravitateMediaGroup I know what you shot them to because you said so in your descriptions. DR isn't a picture quality "trump card", otherwise the 7D would clearly be a superior camera for shooting motion pictures than the GH2 and it clearly isn't.

Based on the specs "menu" the GH2 shouldn't be rated so comparably with high end cameras in blind taste-tests conducted for professional review. It accomplishes what other DSLRs, with better on-paper specs, with higher price tags, from actual professional product lines aren't in these cases. Almost universally with less DR than the other cameras its going up against. Have you learned nothing before buying your new toy?

Every published demonstration I've seen for the BMCC clearly shows lackluster overall image quality, not just technically, in the stuff that affects your naughty bits (or not), when used to shoot ProRes. It instantly turns it into a news gathering camera instead of a "Cinema Camera". None of it looked as good as some of the better non-hacked GH2 footage I've seen elsewhere online.

I'm sure it has its uses and for some customers it's the right choice. In those cases getting "cinematic" footage isn't a concern on the table.

Wedding videos come to mind.

This reminds me of Spanish television. I'm inviting my mum here, she loves this kind of argumentative discussions, and she shoots photographs of birds with a Sony HX9v. She has lots of followers. And she'll love this and keep up with the topic. I'm out.

Vitaliy, with experiments careful you must be. The dark side can invade this place and that would be a shame...

@GravitateMediaGroup I compared the GH2 to shooting the BMCC in ProRes mode. No question, it's a waste of the BMCC to shoot in that mode.

So words and design are lost on you.

@burnetrhoades That is hilarious. Tell that to John Brawley or anybody at BMD that took part in developing it. 422 alone is 1 advantage.