@kholi

I do not see any big misrepresentation. You can check FAQ and most things correlate to it, and it is mostly based on John's words or official specs.
Thing is that he expected to see finished product, but it looks like it is in same early state.

I've read every single thing about the camera, I was at the event.

And, it makes your point of view the only one possible?

That post is so out of bounds it's ridiculous.

I suggest to check your words here.

What makes SDI more expensive (it seems to always be) than HDMI for manufacturers ti implemement? Is it the chips? Because it's not the connector itself.

I use A few HDMI->SDI converters and the reverse .. as I can buy 20m of Belden 1505F for $100 whereas I can't buy a 20m HDMI cable that works.

in the faq it states that it won't work with ATEM switchers, where did this information come from?

Black Magic answer as I remember.

What he posted wasn't fact. Over HALF of it was cleared up three or four times each, the same questions. Has NOTHING to do with anyone's point of view.

You are pretty hard defendent. I am more in line with shian. I think that it is now beta stage camera with innovative raw option. Made by the company that did not want to discuss any technical things, and judging from all sCMOS hardware things I read it leaves very big space to mess things up. Scientific cameras based on same sensor have quite complicated solutions to use sensor potential (very low sensor temperature, parallel high-low ADC with digital summation, etc),

They discussed half of the things on that list, in person, right there by the camera. How is that being a defendant when everything that the guy openly stated is almost polar opposite to what was just posted here?

ISO LIMTED TO 400, 800 and 1600 with no plans to change this!!!!! (native 800)

Mr. May: We are looking into opening up the ISO's up to higher values, but we didn't want to do that for the pre-production model because we were anticipating someone walking up to the camera, turning the ISO up and immediately going "This camera sucks in lowlight!" before we've even finished it.

Then Mr. May goes on to say: I'm not pitching this camera as a lowlight champion, that's not what it is.

Paraphrased, and he said this at least four times in the span of the thirty minutes I stood there listening to these questions going on.

That's just one of the things on the list of mis-informative "emotional" blurbs.

And, that's being a defendant? Okay then. It has nothing to do with anyone's "point of view", half of these things that are on the list were answered well before today, so it's half someone going in without actually paying attention (not that surprising) and half someone just plain out not interested enough to listen, inquire, learn.

@kavdani they said there would be one on release version, but wasn't there now.

That's just one of the things on the list of mis-informative "emotional" blurbs.

I do not see this as emotional blurb. "We are looking into opening up the ISO's up to higher values" is not fact in any way, it is his personal opinion that they could, may be, add higher ISO. In my memory they never said that they plan to make higher ISOs previously. Plus I think that main point was that selection is very limited, not that he want 12800 ISO.

And, that's being a defendant? Okay then. It has nothing to do with anyone's "point of view", half of these things that are on the list were answered well before today, so it's half someone going in without actually paying attention (not that surprising) and half someone just plain out not interested enough to listen, inquire, learn.

You want devalue his opinion, and this is just it. His opinion is based on that he read previously, all this marketing noise, and after this hearing and looking at their presentation.

May specifically stated that they were looking into adjustable white balance in firmware.

I have good expirience dealing with various tech companies.
Until you see it on paper or in official press release with data specified I strongly suggest to assume that it'll never happened. For your own safety, especially if your work depends on it.

Since you were there @kholi, what were your impressions of it? What kind of projects would benefit from the BMC in its current form over the DSLR alternatives? Any surprises as far as things we didn't know already?

@Oedipax

Pretty much everything you'd shoot on a DSLR that needs a tiny extra oomph. What I now have a greater understanding of is that it is absolutely not the DSLR killer people were claiming it was going to be. They had a good reason to project that, but it isn't.

It's for the more "advanced" DSLR user, or, the shooter that either owns an Epic or uses one for every large project but doesn't want to deal with it for small ones. A niche within a niche.

At the end of the day, if you have a GH2 and you're happy with it, not planning to do anything larger than what you do now, I'd simply hold off for whatever the GH3 might be instead of jumping to this.

About the strength of the SDI connector .. I am going to hope it's because it;s beta.

I have a fair bit of BMD product (I think from reading here, more than anyone else) and they're all built like a rock. The only other product I have that is as good is my smallHD DP6.

I wil speculate that on release the SDI will be attached firmly to the machined aluminium case

And one of the things that got under my skin was "Mr. May" speaking very negatively about DSLRs...in fact when answering about the battery, he stated that a removable battery would have made the case bigger... many features, people asked about would have made the case bigger, and they wanted something you could hold like 'this' and he grabbed the sides with 2 hands, like a photographer shooting on a large still cam, which they are using as a selling point, and added "...cuz people think they can shoot video on a DSLR for more than 2 hours, and are shocked when the thing blows up." --- a bit of hyperbole, don't ya think, Mr. May?

I realize they are competing with DSLRs, and not the real cinema cams, but don't try to sell me your crappy beta cam with overstated hyperbole, and not expect your target audience to be a little offended on top of being disappointed at your overhyped camera.