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Coronavirus: Vaccines efficiency
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  • firstbasefirstbase

    Interesting: https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-08-hhs-documents-admit-the-cdc-has-never-isolated-any-covid-19-virus-global-hoax.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @firstbase

    • No isolated Certified Reference Materials for “covid-19” virus.
    • PCR tests that find “positive” results for covid merely the result of amplified instrument background.
    • FDA admits PCR tests were developed without any isolated covid-19 virus samples. So they simulated the virus.
    • Virologist Dr. Judy Mikovitz confirms common coronaviruses and monkey viruses fraudulently labeled “covid.” Dr. Jane Ruby explains the lack of any viral isolate and why the pandemic is based on coordinated science fraud.

    It had been agenda for some idiots in early 2020, but now it is just plain criminals without any responsibility at all.

    But there’s no such thing as a real, physical, isolated covid-19 virus that has been harvested from sick people and shown to infect other people and make them sick.

    Specially for such idiots exist tons of RNA full sequencing of various strains.

    As well as extremely detailed models of whole virus (can find in this topic) and of spike protein.

    And no, it is not "same coronaviruses that we had for ages".

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Just saying there's two diametrically opposed sides to this Covid story. Not clear IMHO which is most credible yet. I'll retain a healthy dose of skepticism as I don't trust the politicians, including Fauci.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/MWsMyIKvGmvy/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @firstbase

    Just saying there's two diametrically opposed sides to this Covid story. Not clear IMHO which is most credible yet

    What is not exactly clear?

    From your link:

    5G will be switched on higher frequencies come August 11th and the 5-G is the KICKER to the vaccine that will cause mass illness. The vaccinated will become super spreaders and we really will have a pandemic.

    The guy need urgent medical help as his brain functions are clearly damaged beyond repair.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Okay, I agree that statement 5G is not credible and unfounded. That having been said, the idea of throwing the baby out with the bathwater is equally erroneous. There could exist MUCH truth in what many medical professionals believe and suspect about the inherent dangers of the so-called "vaccines." Time will tell.

    This Doctor's testimony is credible and compelling. Watch before the YouTube thought police remove it:

    Of course YOUTUBE pulled down the video of a doctor's testimony that runs counter to the official narrative!! Here it is again:

    https://rumble.com/vkwcb4-dr-dan-stock-specialist-in-immunology-and-inflammation-says-cdc-and-nih-is-.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Rates of misinformation about COVID-19 and the COVID-19 vaccines increased dramatically from June to July, according to Zignal Labs, which tracks mentions of phrases on social media and by news outlets. False claims, including statements saying that the vaccines don’t work, immunity from infections is better than vaccination, and vaccines cause miscarriages, skyrocketed. The falsehood that the vaccines don’t work is up 437 percent, the analysis found.

    https://www.theverge.com/22618249/covid-misinformation-surge-delta-russia-vaccine

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    This coin has the same face on both sides. @firstbase

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic

    Not sure what "same face on both sides" means, but I do think there is justifiable and growing concern over these forced inoculations by both laypeople and many in the medical community. Many in the medical industry have been threatened if they spread what is determined to be "misinformation." Blindly following a dogma (experimental vaccines administered by all means necessary) while turning a blind eye to thousands of vaccine-related deaths and many more adverse reactions is NOT good science. It's criminal.

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    I agree that this is criminal, but the coin has the same face on both sides. This means they always win, whenever they throw the coin. If it’s no the virus is the vaccine if not is any other complication

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotixic Yes, I agree with your assessment. Also, emerging info from Israel shows that highly vaccinated nation is spiking with lots of positive covid cases while Palestinians, who aren't vaccinated, are not spiking at all: https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1425187513010987015?s=20

    Of course, IMHO, the rtPCR tests are faulty and designed to show positive results for covid, so there's that!

    I just think we're being duped and played. We're fools for falling for their dubious pseudo-science of tests and vaccinations and I fear they have an alternate and nefarious agenda for those who take their spike protein, graphene oxide jabs.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    More from respected and renown physician Dr. Peter McCullough:

    https://rumble.com/vhp8e1-massive-world-renowned-doctor-blows-lid-off-of-covid-vaccine.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    American scientists have traced the dynamics of the effectiveness of vaccines over time - the study was conducted from January to July, it was attended by about 180 thousand people vaccinated with drugs from Moderna and Pfizer.

    In July, amid the spread of the delta strain, vaccine efficacy rates dropped sharply.

    "In the context of increasing cases in Minnesota (where the study was originally conducted) during July, mRNA-1273 (Moderna) efficacy against infection was lower than in previous months and did not exceed 76 percent, and BNT162b2 (Pfizer) had an even more pronounced decrease up to 42 percent or less, "the experts say.

    Note that almost 99% of vaccinated people can get sick, just in mild form, and will still spread the virus around.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    All of which begs the question, why inoculate with these experimental spike protein creating mixtures at all?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Interesting

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  • MeierhansMeierhans

    Indeed. Source?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Meierhans

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.20.21260795v1.full.pdf

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The Gamaleya Center of the Russian Ministry of Health has developed a variant of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine for the delta strain, said the head of the institution, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Gintsburg.

    He said that the design of the vaccine is already "in the refrigerator", but it is too early to say whether it will be more effective than the previous version, as it is impossible to predict the appearance of new ones, including more dangerous mutations.

    "Nobody ever, except for God and Charles Darwin, does not know how evolution will go. And I do not know either," he said.

    Gunzburg explained that sometimes doctors cannot help a patient "hold out" - for those who have not received the vaccine, when infected with the "delta" strain, the infectious process takes 4-5 days, and not several weeks, as with other options.

    "Our immune system produces antibodies in 10-12-14 days. With other variants of the coronavirus, she managed to do this, and also brilliant resuscitators helped the sick to hold out until the immune system worked. And in the case of the" delta "they do not have time."

    I hear this statement about 4-5 day for the first time ever.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    Hopeful for a better vaccine alternative to mRNA versions! mRNA versions seem to cause very disturbing blood anomalies:

    https://rumble.com/vldaex-vaxxed-patients-blood-examined-horrific-findings-revealed-by-german-physici.html

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    Holy shit. First base, did you get a shot?

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic

    Not yet. Holding out for a better alternative, if one (or more) becomes available. The rouleaux pattern formation of red blood cells is most troubling and associated with the mRNA vaccines. This is likely the beginning stage of thrombotic activity. Not good!

  • endotoxicendotoxic

    And people insist on getting a shot. They are really sheep.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @endotoxic I agree. Of course, people who are vaccinated with these experimental, blood-damaging, clot-causing mRNA inoculations have cognitive dissonance and want very badly to defend and reinforce their decision to take them.

    There are many in the medical community who believe that once the vaccinated come in contact with either COVID or any other corona virus, they will experience antibody dependent enhancement and become even more ill than if they had avoided the vaccines altogether. A really bad scenario on the horizon.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @endotoxic @firstbase

    Guys, you are discussing wrong alternatives.

    Getting vaccine is generally not bad, as your chance on bad outcome is much less.

    But vaccines also proved to be of no total solution that they deemed to be.

  • firstbasefirstbase

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    People such as this lady may tend to disagree:

    https://www.dailyveracity.com/2021/08/19/covid-vaccine-causes-womans-skin-to-rot-according-to-doctors/

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