@geddyt You will hear a lot about how the 16mp sensor is just as good as the 20mp sensor and so on; obviously, I like Panasonics and there are eight of them in the house, but although I consider the stills part of the camera workable, and it's gotten better with each model, the Olympus is better. For the last four years, its Olympus for stills, Panny for video. The Olly has this amazing feature where you get the equivalent of a 42mp sensor--that's awesome.
In low light, these cameras just aren't like the ones with larger sensors, but the gap has narrowed. The Sony's, particularly the A7* type, are just amazing. And make no mistake, they take amazing video, and in any kind of light.
So why do I use Panasonics for video? well, we also use Sony, but the Panasonics are cheap and the don't overheat on long events where we film for eight hours in a row. Otherwise, we would be using all Sony at this point.
Is the old story about Olly being better than Panasonic for stills? I think so, but the Elephant in the room is the new Olly camera. They are promising better everything.
Lastly, there's no point in getting a GH4, the G7 has better video, the GX85 has better video and better stills. The new G85 looks like the best of the two of these.
From the menu walk through in the posted video, it's seems that G85 have all PAL/NTSC video fps option! It is a buy for me. I wonder if non Europe model retains unlimited video time recording. Anyone have this info?
NTSC models dont have time limit but you cannot switch to PAL.
I think the G8 Asia version will offer all PAL/NTSC video fps options. I hope Panasonic will be very generous by allowing unlimited video time recording of this model. Would they?
@yskunto No. Japan is NTSC Area. There is no limit recording and No PAL/NTSC Option like G85.
Panasonic always had separate version for Japan, it is not Asian version.
Does it (Japan) have English menu?
@liork Japan, English, Chinese, Korean.
@Vitaliy_Kiselev It's not me. I didn't say Asian version. ;-)
How 16Mp sensor compares to latest 20Mp one by Sony?
Another review
Despite the fact that the DMC-G80 has four fewer megapixels than the range-topping GX8, the removal of the optical low pass filter and the improvement to the optical image stabilization system makes it difficult to judge between the two cameras as to which in fact has the better image quality - it’s pretty much too close to call.
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/panasonic_lumix_dmc_g80_review/
I added sample and except.
For me it looks like half baked thing, just some photos and fast ISO etc tests.
Weight, I see it's 505 gram, which I think is the body only. How much does the 12-60 lens weigh?
I just found it: 210 gram.
Can't wait to buy this camera. I do not see a lot that would make me choose the GH5 over this one. As for the headphone jack, it doesn't bother me since I'm used to external zoom for serious shooting sessions. Do you think though that the dynamic range would be better on the GH5?
How can we know that? No info at all on this matter from Panasonic.
Dynamic range will be decent with CineD, but don't expect miracles.
UK Panasonic promotion - get free battery grip for preorder
http://promotions.panasonic.co.uk/promotions/promotions/view_terms/163
Is it worth upgrading from a G7 if you have a NTSC with the unlimited recording?
@smoke23 I would wait a bit till the price drops and the reviews are all in. It looks like a really good camera. It may be the IQ is a tiny bit better, it may be there is not difference, and it actually may be that the IQ is a tiny bit worse.
The G7 is a bit lighter, and has no IS.
The new model has some weather sealing.
Dual I.S. 2 Lens Support Firmware update. 12-60 and 14-140 HD http://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/index2.html
good news
http://www.photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-g85g80-review/
Whoa that image was startling! I recognise that as being bridge/carpark just around the corner from my place. Looked up his site, yup, he is an Aucklander too!
Well this will be interesting with the Dual IS Mk2....
I wonder if we are going to have a 3 Tier OIS situation. Where some lens don't support any Dual IS (100-300mm), where some support the Dual IS (12-35 etc) and newer (12-60mm, or ones they want to sell...) support Dual IS Mk2.
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