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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • AlbertZAlbertZ

    I have the impression that ProRes files from the BMCC are easier to grade for beginners, they looks less flatter directly straight of cam, while the BMPCC files are tricker to grade...is it only an impression? anyone can confirm this?

  • _OZ_OZ

    Since a beginner would likely load up a LUT anyway, I'm not sure that it's any harder from a starting point perspective.

  • belfrymanbelfryman

    @Albertz I was feeling the opposite, though didn't do a lot with my BMCC before selling. Much happier with pocket cam all round.

  • _gl_gl

    All the UK sellers I was watching have pulled the discount, except this one (can't vouch for it, Google):
    http://www.ukdigital.co.uk/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @_gl

    At first their move looked like very good thing. But as usual for BM it was just some manager fantasy, logistics sucks badly.

  • _gl_gl

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev agreed.

    ProAV did have stock right at the start, and got a few more more a week later - but nothing since, and no firm dates yet from BM UK distributors it seems. I'm still waiting for mine ...

  • arknoxarknox

    It seems retailers are being given batches of cameras at the sale price. Once those are sold out the price goes back up. They then get allocated another batch and the price drops until those sell out also. The price has been up and down multiple times at CVP and 3D Broadcast at least. I ordered around a week ago from CVP and my order has went into the Blackmagic black hole as well. No idea when I will receive a camera. Typical incompetence from BM.

  • _gl_gl

    So basically the retailers are not getting guarantees from BM that they will ever receive more stock at the discount price, and so have to put the prices up until they get a confirmed new batch? Way to run a sale. I've heard 'we didn't expect the demand' - 50% discount, what could possibly happen?? ; )

    Still it's a superb offer, even if it comes with a little pain ...

  • SilverSurferSilverSurfer

    I received my discounted bmpcc on the 30th July after having placed the order the day it was announced (thanks for the heads up PV!). The distributor (Lemac Brisbane Australia) said they had 26 orders the first 2 days... and mine was second. They also said they will be honouring all orders made while the deal was still offered.

  • _gl_gl

    My next worry is, how many will have faulty sensors and need replacing? Stripes, hot pixels... read some stories (was it here)? Though of course one bad report can skew the reality. @SilverSurfer, was yours OK?

  • artiswarartiswar

    My order according B&H will be fulfilled mid September having ordered in mid July. D:

  • foggyfoggy

    Hi folks,

    I was actually at the ProVision event in Manchester talking to a rep from BM when he got a call to say the price had dropped, I thought it was a sales ploy to get me to sign up but I checked on my phone to find it was just a coincidence and the price had indeed gone down. For anyone in the UK desperate for one right now, I bought a display model from HPreston for £350 unused in box with full warranty, it had just had the box open on display in a cabinet. They had 2 in and I took one so the other may well be available right now.

  • _gl_gl

    nice @foggy, hope someone gets it.

    Has anybody here had (or heard of) problems with sensor issues that developed over time? ie. that worked fine, but then developed a fault later? I ask because I'm planning to open my two Pockets to attempt a Genlock-type sync for 3D shooting, and I want to know when it's safe to void my warranties.

    If you're interested in sensor-synced 3D with the Pockets, or know electronics and can help me out, check out our thread: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/10902/bmd-pocket-cinema-camera-stereoscopic-collaboration/p1

  • SilverSurferSilverSurfer

    -Gl mine is fine. It is a fiddly camera to use and shooting out in daylight is next to impossible without an EVF or snap on View finder. Also a Lens with image stabilisation would be preferable for hand held shooting. All to be expected, and awesome other wise.

    Now I'm just waiting on a faster SD card (95mb/s) to record Prores and Raw. It still records on slower cards but drops / skips frames.

  • _gl_gl

    @SilverSurfer, have you flashed the recent firmware with the extra ProRes modes? The lowest one (Proxy) should be around 40Mb/s only.

  • SilverSurferSilverSurfer

    _gl yes... I've already updated firmware and have played with other formats. I want to try out Raw and Prores HQ though.

  • foggyfoggy

    No worries @_gl . I have a hacked gh2(with Vitalys hack) which I love and use for all my run and gun, ENG, Doc, Wedding type stuff, but now I am looking at doing more narrative stuff the BMPCC seemed the perfect fit at the price, use the same lenses and gear as my GH2 but give me much more leverage to make the film look how I want.Having said that, I tried grading the RAW for the first time today and I have so much to learn. As far as sensor issues my unit has had no issues.

  • _gl_gl

    @foggy, I'm in the same boat, been shooting hacked GH2's for a few years. Loved them, but now want better image quality & DR. I've been drooling over the Pockets since they were announced, but didn't have the cash until the price drop. So that made up my mind for me : ). It's amazing how many other things you then have to do that you hadn't planned for, it's never just plug & play is it.

    I'm used to doing RAW for stills and have programmed a bit of colour processing stuff, so I'm looking forward to having the same flexibility (I love colouring GH2 footage but it looks ugly fast). I also do lens flare/glow type processing, where you really want detail in highlights even if you end up clipping them in post, so the extra DR should be awesome for that.

    If I had the cash, the A7S looks beautiful + small file size, good DR, superb lowlight. But with the discount it's comparing apples with space debris.

  • robertGLrobertGL

    meh as much as I'd like a BMPCC i think i'll wait and see what Mk II will offer

  • davjddavjd

    My cheap loupe for Bmpcc - done with a cheap viewfinder and an empty slides box. Backpiece detachable with sunshade option.

    loupe.jpg
    2400 x 1800 - 879K
  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @davjd Love it! How does you find it works for you, what did it cost to make?

  • davjddavjd

    @matt_gh2 thanks for appreciating. Just the price of a viewfinder to disassemble - sevenoak in my case - and, of course, you must have a slides empty box, wich fits perfectly on the blackmagic lcd. I used an alluminum sheet to cut a shape and screw it around the white piece of the box leaving two flanges to match the cameras holes. After I bought a black velvet adesive paper to cover the aluminum structure and the inside of the white part of the box.

  • mo7iesmo7ies

    ...aaanyway...

  • mattherematthere

    CVP in the UK sending mine out today ordered on day 1 of the "Sale" they are sticking to their original discounts, even though figures were bodged in the early days.

  • davjddavjd

    I got a "green" luminous dot on the lower right part of the lcd. It is like a little stain with a bit of flare around it. It just appeared by itself while I was working and doesn't go away. It does not affect recorded images, so it must be a defect or damage of the screen. It only shows when the camera is on. Any idea of waht has happened?

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