Not sure if this info is any use. I shot all day today at a fair . I was using Drewnet Cluster X. I have no problems at all with 1080 24p but when i used 720 50p it stopped recording very often annoyingly so.I was using a 95mb/s with a 14-42 lens and a voigt 25mm. I am certainly not complaining, just thought the info might be useful.

@dado023

i would like it to record to 25p1080 on some bittrate from 50-90. with 25fps and shutter speed on 50 Which hack do you suggest for PAL user?

Spizz Trial 4 (bkmcwd)

@towi

i have just read the post about Spizz, but it says it is 80+ for HBR, so that goes even beyond 90, right?

@dado023 You might want to read more carefully. :)

You are referring to the bitrate for Trial 1 (84 mbps indicated for HBR in PTool) but @towi had suggested trial 4 (70 mbps indicated for HBR in PTool). For reference, it's indicated as 80 mpbs in Trial 5.

I can't offer much in the way of helpful advice on HBR since I rarely need content to playback at 25P or 30P with sync sound (and I almost always use 80% mode when I want 30P acquisition for slow-motion playback since HBR is not as robust as 24H in terms of the the implementation in-camera, regardless of the setting version).

@driftwood and @thepalalias

i kindly thank you both for reply :)

@thepalalias when you say this "HBR is not as robust as 24H in terms of the the implementation in-camera, regardless of the setting version)."

Now you got me even more curious....Does this mean HBR just isnt tuned that good as 24L and 24H is?

Cluster X 'Spizz' Trail 5 - 24H. Light Grade. Average (original .mts file) bitrate = 111mbps. YT bitrate = 10mbs (If you're lucky).

@ghostlayer I have not tried Slipstream #2. What is important for me in a patch is basically the best 24P setting in terms of quality and gradability, and at the same time providing very good quality for the all of the other modes and of course spanning for 1/2hr.

To tell you the truth I am not too concerned about the space that it takes up on my card. While I would love to have my cake and eat it too... I am realistic in terms of the codec's deficiencies, and realize that in order to retain the most amount of information the data rate has to increase so that this is possible.

The way I look at it is just same way that I look at photography. I only shoot in raw mode, this way I am able to retain the most amount of information as possible while also giving me the most flexibility in terms of image manipulation etc. Does it take extra space in comparison to JPEG? Sure, but to me it is worth it. This may not hold true for you or many others.

I guess the old saying holds true... Different strokes for different folks... Fortunately we have all of these different Driftwood patches that should suffice for the different needs that we have as individuals.

@abusaifo I really dont want to see that video posted here again. Its appalling. Its got nothing to do with these settings.

Has anyone done a comparison between the Moon hack and Orion V4b? They seem to be the most popular all-I/GOP 1 hacks. Pros and cons of each? I am happy to test this myself and share my thoughts, but just checking to see if perhaps this has been attempted by someone.

Thank you!

@ghostlayer I concur I wish we had 4:2:2 as well. I actually bought the Nikon D600 when it was announced because I was itching for a full frame camera and it was "supposed" to have a clean HDMI out. I was a little perturbed when I found out that the HDMI out has a black border on the HDMI port, and I almost returned the camera because of this.

What I did was test the video/picture quality of the D600 vs my 7D/T4i that I had at the time. There was no comparison, the D600 blew the 7D/T4i out of the water. I knew that the picture quality would be better because of the full frame sensor but, I did not expect the (compressed) video quality to be better, but it was (IMO) I was shocked. I sold off all of my Canon gear and switched to Nikon. The other reason for the switch, is the Nikon glass. The Nikon glass was consistently sharper and had better contrast, color rendition etc, in comparison to their Canon counterparts.

Fast forward to 12-20-2012, Amazon had a screaming deal on the Panny GH2 I am a sucker for a good deal $500.00 cha-ching. Once again I performed a video quality test of the GH2 to the D600, with the stock GH2 firmware, quite frankly I was not impressed, then I installed the @driftwood Cluster 7 Nebula patch. Wholly shit!!! I was shocked and totally stoked :) jumping out of my chair and rejoicing with glee, the fact that I got this awesome video making machine for a mere $500.00. The GH2 with @driftwood hack is (IMO) way better then the D600 for video quality, the only area where I feel the D600 has an advantage is the depth of field.

@abusaifo I am sorry but IMHO the Canon 7D, 60D, T4i etc do not hold a candle to the GH2 with Driftwoods patches. The only Canon camera that I would consider would be the 5DMKIII, but that is in a totally different price range then the GH2. IMO for under $1000.00 the Panasonic GH2 with @driftwood patch is unbeatable, the still imaging is a little better on the Canon 7D series and below, so if still imaging takes precedence over video, then the Canon cameras might be a better choice. But for video there is no comparison in the $1000 price range, the GH2 with the @driftwood patch is king hands down no ifs ands or buts about it..

Is there a general consensus that Moon out performs V4b at similar bitrates? I guess there is something else going on behind the scenes with the matricies or something?

Oh, and that you guys for addressing my question so quickly. Really nice of you.

@cjdincer: how do you compare the look of slipstream 3 to moon trial 5? I had moon trial 3 on my camera before, which i really liked and now i switched to slipstream 3 and tbh i dont see a real difference in 24p, maybe slightly sharper but i could not testify on that in court.