@DaVeat

I've only heard the Ultra 16's do work, though it's unconfirmed rumours and I haven't tested it personally. If that's the case the 9.5mm, 12mm and the 14mm (all T1.3) would be of interest.

They are very very expensive and pretty rare lenses though.

jb

Had an excellent time at the #blackmagiccinemacamera seminar here in Hong Kong. Not shipping til March though!

Via: https://twitter.com/nickdearman/statuses/263260271877955584

All looks really bad.

I think that laws must restrict preorders, so you sign kind of agreement and seller will pay you fees each day if target date is not met (with 60 days equal 100% of sale price :-) ) .

I can't find any confirmation of the march shipping date, not on black magic site. Nowhere else either. I was at the black magic event in stockholm 4 days ago and they were still saying december.

Man Stuff like this happens with smaller companies not used to having such a major release. I think they make bad decisions based on trying to grab buyers before other companies come out with their product. It's easier for established camera companies like Sony, Canon etc. They have experience and tons of current customers who are already fans of their products so they don't have as much to worry about. If customers who pre ordered are unhappy they can cancel, but i'm not really gonna bash the smaller companies too hard knowing that they are pushing the envelope on design and forcing the big companies to make better and cheaper product just to retain their status. I'm pulling for BMD to catch a break and get their product rolling.

RED, BMD, SLRMagic, Digital Bolex etc. All of these companies are doing some really amazing things and I hope that customers are patient with them and their issues. In the end we've all benefited from their efforts even if not entirely successful.

RED, BMD, SLRMagic, Digital Bolex etc. All of these companies are doing some really amazing things and I hope that customers are patient with them and their issues.

They are just very different.
SLR Magic is not manufacturer, but reseller. Digital Bolex is just collection of guys spending money.
RED is producing good stuff. but the sooner it'll go bankrupt, the better for all.
BMD just had some back luck, I guess.

Btw, BMD community quickly turn into RED lemmings (I can't use word community here).

With claims "how you can even mention that delays are bad!", "this is small company, give them a break, it is so revolutional product, they could take any time it needs to make perfect product", and similar shit.

o.k but there is a little "big" difference, I know what I will get from BM...no mystery play about clean hdmi out etc.

I purchased in the past Sony, Canon and Panasonic Cameras and BM Hardware products. Execpt with my GH2 I feel messed around concerning info about what a cam can do or NOT do. So it's like a showbag and nothing has changed so far. I trust more in BM.... and the other thing is to be patient about delivery time.

If people are so stupid as to put up their money on a preorder without any warranty; then that is up to them. Plenty of shops offer preorders without taking any money. Personally I´ve been so stupid on another occasion (well technically it was an order, not preorder) and I´m NOT doing it again. Regardless of the product.

The pre order is with the retailer not the manufacturer, let's not forget that.

@MovieArmada, i'm surprised you need "real life" reviews in order to make up your mind about the BMC. It's fairly evident by now that this is a landmark product. They may have issues with production, but the ones that have been out in the wild have proven to produce beautiful images and the RAW format is just a boon to any film maker. If I get a big job I would have no hesitation buying a BMC MFT when it comes out. I can't think of anything else I could buy that would give me everything that the BMC can.