is it me or is this footage noisy as hell, i downloaded the 1 gig+ file and looked at it in premiere @ 1:1 and it's making me think we don't have it so bad with the gh2 after all:

@woodybrando

Its quite timely that you've asked about noise in relation to the two cameras. I have always thought the noise in hacked GH2 footage is organic enough to pass off as grain when blown up on a big screen. I like the hacked GH2 because the noise particles are "refined". Panasonic seems to have removed the noise-signal ratio with the GH3, judging from available footage so far, that's all good. But the video I feel now comes across as too sleek, and clean. It's more clinical than film-like.

Likewise, the noise in BMCC may not be a bad thing. If you blow the footage up, per chance it might look like grain. Unless we are talking about artifacts and pixelation.

These days you can't always assume that people are shooting with cinematic projection in mind. It's just as likely you could be targeting a tablet or laptop screen or even a mobile phone.

The film grain look? I don't assume that the same aesthetic that looks good projected on a screen, or on a large TV in the living room works just as well when viewed on 1080p tablet or Retina display half a meter away. Personally I am finding that when I watch video at arms length or closer I see EVERYTHING. When I am watching stuff up close I don't want to see noise, I want to see detail.

I think the BMCC and it's RAW workflow offers amazing levels of detail. It can deliver an image that has detail, color and as far as noise is concerned, it seems that existing RAW tools already do an amazing job cleaning noise and controlling sharpness and softness in the image.

I would agree that the GH3 with its clean AVC-100 will appeal to a different type of shooter. Perhaps this kind -> http://www.dslrnewsshooter.com/category/journalism/

I see the GH3 and BMCC as amazing camera packages that are not necessarily competing with each other.

@Tobsen

To be totally clear, there is no way this mount can be activated later to be an active m4/3.

As nice an idea as it is to simply have the pins in there for later, that wasn't something that can be done quickly. It would have taken many more months to do.

JB.

Yes, but again. It's not as simple as just "putting in some pins"......

jb

Actually it's like starting from scratch. Apparently the m4/3 pins are very difficult and have to be done very precisely.

@johnbrawley I know that you cannot simply "activate" a passive mount. What I was trying to say is that BMD should really try to allow ANY kind of upgrade to get some functions of Panny lenses working. Like the image stabilization. How? I am not an electrical engineer, but I hope they can think of something. It would be great if they could release the cam with some preps to get it working in the future. It feels like that BMD is listening pretty well to what customers want, so hopefully they find a way to address this issue as well somehow.

@Tobsen it's called BM Cinema Camera. I doubt wether the market of µ43 IS lenses makes much sense of spending big efforts of implementation. I agree that Sony E would have been a good solution but that ment to rely on Chinese adapter maufacturer

@peaceonearth Thanks for the reminder... still, it doesn't mean you have to exclude certain beneficial features that could be adopted with this system. IS is on thing that is surely not needed for most stuff, but knowing you could use it...great thing.

Again, I ordered the cam, because it suits my needs and the glass I own. Passive mount works for me just fine. In my opinion though, having an active m43 mount at some point would add a lot of benefits for customers- even to a "cinema" cam.

Just my two cents without wanting to be complain (wasn't supposed to sound like it).

@Johnbrawley "To make an active version, you wouldn't have seen one till April next year..."

John I think most people would gladly wait until April for this.

@brian202020 - I doubt that the word "most" would apply to that statement. The longer I wait, the more $ I would miss out on making. nope, I came from the film world. I am used to manual as are a lot of other people out there.

@nomad

I find all this "disappointments" really funny. Aspecially fun it'll be after mechanical FFs and manual aperture rings will vanish quite soon.

Nothing is bad about AF, as it can just save your time and money, even if you just use it for prefocus, and this is especially important in small production teams.