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Digital Bolex raw camera, no longer made
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  • vicharrisvicharris

    How the hell is the CA that bad with a lens that good? I wasn't even looking for it because I thought the video was pretty good but damn did it leap off the screen! Is that a highlight roll off issue then?

  • RRRRRRRR

    @burnetrhoades

    With the proper lenses (read not SLR) you don't need a Speedbooster to raise the effective size of a 16mm sensor in order to get depth falloff.

    Agree completely. And largely with everything else you wrote. :) Not a single point that hit home is a sign of something.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    @vicharris it does seem worse in the highlight areas but you see it in the solid colors as well. I don't have an explanation for that but maybe some weird post processing from NR. Pretty striking.

  • soundgh2soundgh2

    Where would this camera see the light of day ? Intrigued, also like 1DC, Kineraw etc etc even BM cams in any form - not used at all in Broadcast for program content in the UK bar a few minor indie shoots - what production manager would ever pay for, and hire these, on a job? Interested - if none, then they're very expensive vimeo cameras. None of my PM chums who sign off the freelance and camera hire even know about them and they're BBC top drawer etc etc and they are governing 90% of what we see below channel 400 in the UK. C300 is as far as they stretch and will pay!

  • soundgh2soundgh2

    To be honest and sadly brutal the channel and most of the people making/funding the prog dont give a fuck - th politics in pitching and making a prog may be different in the UK compared to the US etc but times really have changed here.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @soundgh2 You should do a little more research. BM cameras are sprouting up as B and C cams to Alexas everywhere. Sure, it's under the radar but it's happening. McDonalds just made a national commercial with the Pocket cam and I've been on a movie for theatrical release using the Pocket as A cam on 75% of the shoot. Just because you aren't seeing it doesn't mean it's not happening. Hollywood Camera is renting the shit out of their Pocket for features as well.

  • lunalobo75lunalobo75

    Here you go:

  • jjj_ri_usajjj_ri_usa

    What the heck gives with the Pink Highlights?

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  • vicharrisvicharris

    Gotta be just a firmware thing. Like the problems with Pocket Cam had when it came out. I'm sure it has to be fixable. If not that is not good!

  • caveportcaveport

    Most examples I have seen to date do not impress me. For the money it costs and the specialty nature of this camera it really needs to look a LOT better.

  • DrDaveDrDave

    Sort of Pepto Bismol look on the whites, very strange.

  • AlexAlex

    pink highlights is most likely a workflow issue. I got it a lot with ProRes/Quicktime coming from RED Raw …

    I love the global shutter and the texture of the pixel matrix or how ever you would call it. The fringing is a real pain though!

  • RamboRambo

    The pink comes from overexposing highlights on a CCD sensor when captured and then pulled down in post. I see this on my HMC150 ( CCD) when I've accidentally blown highlights on some clips.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @Rambo Hmmm, never really saw that on my HVX200 but I guess when I saw they were blown, they were blown! :) So it seems many people are just exposing and grading wrong eh?

  • RamboRambo

    Probably should add to that, if white balance is also slightly out, I've seen pink or green in the blown hi lights when trying to put back down. I've not seen that in CMOS cameras I've owned.

  • lunalobo75lunalobo75

    Frank Sauer and Voldemort, got a shot at using the D16:

  • vicharrisvicharris

    SO much of this early footage reminds me of all the Pocket Cams early footage. Shaky ass micro jitters that hurt my eyes. Obviously this is not a handheld camera, just like the Pocket without OIS of some sort.

  • thornthorn
    Shaky ass micro jitters that hurt my eyes.

    They should lead with a seizure warning... just horrible.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Shocker! Another new camera from DB hipsters team, approximate release date is April 2016.

    will be showing a new camera that we’ll announce on Monday the 7th!

    http://www.digitalbolex.com/upcoming-events/

  • jpbturbojpbturbo

    Frank Sauer and Voldemort, got a shot at using the D16:

    Vangelis soundtrack deserves better.

    Incidentally the first gh1 footage I saw was some clips of Shibuya at night with the same soundtrack.

  • matt_gh2matt_gh2

    @jpbturbo Yep-using bladerunner soundtrack to shoot someone shaking their ass while being filmed with a hipster camera....should be illegal...it's definitely immoral.... and blasphemy against one of my favorite films. Girl was pretty good looking though and footage itself was decent - they seemed to capture the 16mm look. Not my cup of tea visually.

    Mr.Reid...If you're listening, don't do that again please. It's bad form to take a classic and use it like that.

  • babypandababypanda

    I just don't get it when people hate on a small company that REALLY is working hard, earnestly in my opinion, on a product they believe in."

    envy? invested in another camera and need to justify that the choice was not inferior? prejudice based on emotional attachment to other gear owned?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    invested in another camera and need to justify that the choice was not inferior?

    Btw Kickstarter projects with long delivery times and meaningless frequent updates show one of the basic methods of attaching people - make them invested by their time, money and emotions. Later it'll be almost impossible to change their mind.

  • babypandababypanda

    This would be an amazing thing if it was somewhere in 400-600$ range, no XLR's, no Raw or anything, just plain simple Bolex. Only digital."

    It amazes me that people with so much expertise on this forum can make comments like this. What can you get nowadays for 400-600$? A consumer camcorder whose technology has hardly changed in 10 years? They created a new product that doesn't really exist from any other manufacturer and is groundbreaking in many respects. That doesn't give them the right to charge a little extra? It's arguable whether the camera is even over-priced and I certainly am no expert on pricing, but to suggest it should retail for 400-600 seems ridiculous to me, considering you get consumer camcorder crap for that price. The sony CX900 is 1500$ - no RAW, no XLR. Still think your comment is fair?

  • babypandababypanda

    Btw Kickstarter projects with long delivery times and meaningless frequent updates show one of the basic methods of attaching people - make them invested by their time, money and emotions. Later it'll be almost impossible to change their mind."

    Yeah but if someone invests in Kickstarter,

    1. they've done an ample amount of research first.
    2. they realize that there is some risk involved and
    3. they believe in the project and actually want to support it. So why should they want to change their mind unless what the manufacturers deliver is total crap and none of the promises about what they were going to deliver were kept?
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