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ColorGHear TOOLKIT- color grading SYSTEM for AE
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  • shianshian

    @mozes So far it's not playing well with bootcamp and parallels, so it'll have to wait till I get my old windows machine working again. (I think there's a short in the board or maybe one of the RAM DIMMs it runs fine for about 30 minutes then it just shuts down, like someone pulled the plug.)

    Thanks for the tip

  • stoneystoney

    @shian I thought it was $25. But why is it $50 on the web page?

    Edit: never mind. "Join" link has $50 price where "shop" link has $25.

  • stoneystoney

    I'm going through the tutorials. At $25, the whole package including the premium membership is a total bargain. I know bits and pieces about AE, and @shian's tutorials cover more than just color correction.

  • duartixduartix

    This is probably way off topic, and Shian has it covered lightly in one of the tutorials, but does anyone has any info (or can point to) on downright to earth codec settings (like h264) for exporting my final results? Shian talks about ProRes 4:4:4 full Intra IIRC, but I would like to know if instead I could use something that wont fill my disc within one week... TIA.

  • TraumManufakturTraumManufaktur

    @duartix Clipwrap, puts only a mov wrapper around, no transcoding. I think Shian said AE can also take straight mts files.

  • iketiket

    @duartix Avid's DNxHD is nice for editting :) Yes AE does handle straight mts files fine.

    http://www.avid.com/US/industries/workflow/DNxHD-Codec

  • duartixduartix

    Thanks, you guys must be psychic! :) I asked about exporting and you are providing me with a solution for another problem I didn't said I have (importing).

    Thanks again.

    (edited out a question looking for a Clipwrap Windows 64 solution)

  • shianshian

    @everyone Vimeo has an excellent help section for exporting high quality H264. They include almost every program you can export from. I've found that if you get too much compression artifacting you can simply jack up the data rate settings.

    http://vimeo.com/help/compression

    But I get much better results when I export ProRes 444 and then follow the vimeo guidelines for QT Pro to export to Mp4 and I use 8000 (or higher for problem encodes) for my bitrate. (If you are running out of disk space, you can delete the ProRes after exporting your compressed file)

  • shianshian

    Tutorial explaining my render settings for both AFX and QT Pro is live on the site now! Link to download .aom file so you can instantly import my exact export settings and use them right away, is available on member download page.

    Tutorial on using Automatic duck, and grading whole sequences will be recorded today, and hopefully live this afternoon, or tonight.

  • iketiket

    Thanks @shian! I'm really enjoying the tutorials and looking forward to more of them.

    I've been playing with Handbrake to transcode with x254vfw which seems to be doing a great job and it eats DNxHD very nicely. I'm on windows.

    http://handbrake.fr

  • dsavagedsavage

    Any chance we can see a side-by-side comparison of GHrain Killer and Neat Video? More than anything, I'd be interested in how they compare on performance. NeatVideo tends to take quite a lot of processing power to do its thing, and if GHrain Killer can beat it on performance while still preserving detail and sharpness, you may have a major selling point for your product.

    I'm also very interested in the rest of the GHears and how I might be able to fit them into my Pr/Ae workflow. But if there's one thing about the whole suite that's piqued my interest, it's GHrain Killer.

  • HakosukaHakosuka

    Agreed with above, if there any comparisons in noise reduction between Neat Video and ColorGHear it would definitely help my buying decision. If ColorGHear prooves to be around the same or better than Neat Video I will definitely be buying it.

  • shianshian

    I don't have NeatVideo - so a side by side would have to be done by someone with both. @artiswar is the only one with both that I know of, and he's said that GHrainKiller was faster, so if he would do a side by side on the footage from JoBless (cuz the noise on that is nasty) it would be a good litmus test, not to mention, he could verify from my screen cap settings that my test was genuine.

  • RRRRRRRR

    @shian Great work! Just got signed up and I've only started to scratch on the surface but it looks really good and useful, so far! I can't use it for everything (plenty of jobs that don't have the time / budget for this kind of work) but I will take every chance I get to scratch / dig deeper. Have you gotten around to tampering with gop1 material yet? Personally, I'm amazed with how well it holds up for pretty harsh CC, straight from the camera.

    Another thing; I didn't take the time to try it - but - does it work with CS5.5 aswell?

  • shianshian

    @RRRR Yup, works fine in 5.5. I'm just getting started on Hacked footage. So far... It holds up really well, and GHrain Killer has no trouble at all nixing any noise in the footage.

  • shianshian

    Automatic Duck and Working with Sequences (tech pass and style pass) Tutorial is now LIVE! Check it out.

  • artiswarartiswar

    @shian - Link me the footage? Or is it just the still? I can do a side by side no problem.

  • artiswarartiswar

    Also. Little skateboarding edit should be up shortly being exclusively graded with ColorGHear. The short I'm currently working on got it's technical grade in Color Finesse. One "Gear" that would be super useful for me in quick run, gun, edit situations would be a temperature gear. Something akin to the temperature slider in Speedgrade.

  • shianshian

    @artiswar go back one page in the thread to see the test history and context, and the link, but to save time for everyone, here it is.

    http://www.nikolicnemanja.com/00016.mts

    Also, temperature slider, duly noted, and on the list of things to upgrade in CGT. Gonna take some serious expression scripting, but an excellent idea.

  • griplimitedgriplimited

    just ordered. looking forward to it.

  • artiswarartiswar

    @shian - Great. I'll get a comparison going in a bit.

    A Lightroom-esque set of controls is what I've been dying for in a color grading package and yours finally comes close. Great work. ColorGHears with Speedgrade, when added, will be unbelievably powerful

  • shianshian

    @artiswar - There's a bit of camera shake at the beginning of the clip. My suggestion would be to use a 5-6 second section form the clip then do the following if possible.

    1 - noise reduction only, one with neatvideo one with GK 2 - CGT color on both, one with neatvideo the other with GK 3 - Neat video corrected in some other fashion (Colorista, MBL, etc.) and the other entirely with CGT.

    And also time how long previews take per fram with NV vs GK, and how long renders take.

    That seems like a comprehensive test, probably too time consuming though.

  • TommyboyTommyboy

    Hey @shian If you interested.

    I have two clips for you ready to compare. One being unattached MTS file thay you can put against CGT and second one processed with NeatVideo in Vegas. PM me your email and I'll get you access to the files.

    Thanks.

  • magnus387magnus387

    Just getting into ColorGHear, but I've got to say that already I'm really impressed. Here's my first attempt, and while I still need to work with it some more in order to really see the full potential, I think I've found my new color grading solution. Congrats @shian

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  • bubbabubba

    Yep!

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