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  • stoneystoney

    Like all other Olympus bodies, I guess no IBIS for video recording. Just software stabilization.

  • DazzaDazza

    video clips I've seen of IS in action have been very impressive, and not subject to the strange contortions you normally get with software IS.

    on further research I am positive video mode still uses IBIS, as someone has the upside IBIS issue on thier video clip

  • stoneystoney

    Did you use a telephoto lens like 135mm at shutter speed around 1/60?

    It'll be difficult to tell when using a wide angle at fast shutter speed.

    Frankly I will be surprised if IBIS works during video recording.

  • stoneystoney

    There is one way to find out for sure. Attach SLR lens with an adapter. While recording video, detach the lens from the adapter. See if the sensor is dancing or not ;)

    People complained about humming noise from E-M5. Olympus said it's from IBIS operation. There is no noise while recording video.

    Who wanna find out about it?

    This video shows how much the sensor moves when the half shutter is pressed for taking photo. But sound seems muted.

  • AlexAlex

    BIG SHIT: no IS when using an adapter!!

    this morning I mounted the Canon FD 135mm F2.5 to the OM-D and there was zero effect from the IBIS. checked the settings, was set to is1.

    Next I mounted the Panasonic 14-140mm, turned its own OIS off and - voila, bellyful 5-achsis IBIS.

    I need to figure that out now. Maybe there is something like "shoot without lens" buried in the menus some where.

    I only had the camera set to video mode by now. When I switch it on, here is no noise. The noise starts when I access the main menu! Strange.

  • RamboRambo

    Could be this way to force you to buy m43 lenses.

  • AlexAlex

    well, still no IBIS without a electronic m43 lens WTF. Tried the Pana 20mm F1.7. and here the IBIS works as well. With the 20mm the IBIS is like a running-without-moving nightmare. Very delayed purpose motion ...

  • stoneystoney

    Does IBIS work for taking photo with vintage lens?

    Hopefully there's a menu item that enables IBIS for recording video with non-electronic-m43 lens.

  • stoneystoney

    BTW how did you confirm IBIS works for 20.7?

    Also did you try 43 lenses?

  • AlexAlex

    if IBIS works, there is zero wiggle visible. Its day and night.

    Olympus sells an adapter for old OM lenses that has a chip build in (MMF-2 UM), kinda like those focus confirm chips in canon adapters. I think that chip makes the difference ...

  • stoneystoney

    Did you hear any noise from the body when recording video with 20.7?

    If IBIS works, it would generate humming noise. Otherwise it might be IS based on software just like all other m43 bodies from Olympus.

  • stoneystoney

    Let me ask you one more favor. Try your 17.5mm 0.95. See if video frames get stabilized. If yes, it's 100% software based.

  • AlexAlex

    even if I use a m43 lens where I can clearly see the IS kicking in, there is no noise. No matter if I'm in video or photo mode. The noise only occurred when I pressed the menu button ...

    It could be that the IS in video mode is an old software only approach. That would be kind of a let down!

  • AlexAlex

    yes, I'll soon give the 17.5mm a try when I'm back from work ...

  • stoneystoney

    When you have time, please try it in a very quiet room. Otherwise the noise from sensor shift can't be heard when you use 20.7mm for taking photo. Thanks for the test.

  • stoneystoney

    BTW I heard E-M5 gives 13 stops dynamic range on RAW photos. Amazing.

  • joesivjoesiv

    @stonebat the EM-5 indeed uses sensor IS for video, which is a first for an a Olympus m43 body.

    @Alex, did you set the focal length manually for the non-native lens'?

  • johnnymjohnnym

    Man this 5-axis IS is the shit.

  • stoneystoney

    @joesiv If that's true, that's great. Where exactly in the menu to set the focal length? Thanks.

  • AlexAlex

    Yes, you can Set the focal length but it doesn't help. No IS with adapted lenses so far ...

  • stoneystoney

    Bummer. Olympus gotta fix the issue.

    What about 17.5mm test? Did it stabilize the footage?

  • AlexAlex

    ok, here are the facts:

    • IBIS is working for all types of lenses but only in photo mode. I had to reset all the setting and than the IBIS came back to life.

    • the video mode is using software IS but only for lenses that can be identified by the camera.

    • no 5-achsis IBIS in video mode

    • no IS at all for manual lenses in video mode
  • zigizigizigizigi

    Boooo! That's more than a bummer. Cheers for clarifying that, Alex. However, the software stabilization seems to be impressively effective as we may see from the sample videos.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Alex

    This is extremely bad news.
    Pentax cameras use stabilizer quite normally in video.

  • stoneystoney

    Official Olympus page says E-M5 uses “Image sensor shift type for movie & still, 5-axis image stabilization”. So it’s just half true.

    I watched a few youtube clips from E-M5. Definitely there were less rolling shutter and jello effects, but there seemed pulses of zooming in/out effects. At first I thought it must have been lens breathing. Now it makes sense. Software IS. No difference from E-P3. Seriously why didn’t name it E-P5 instead of E-M5?

    @Alex Hope you feel better about finding about it sooner rather than later.

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