Update on Mariana the pregnant girl featured earlier

https://twitter.com/mission_russian/status/1510012837237825545

@gunlusting Are you referring to the "Bucha massacre" video and pics? If so some interesting points coming up by independent media folk, such as the fact that the corpses have white armbands. The white armbands are worn to show that they are pro-Russian. Also why were the bodies not gathered into one place for the families to identify? Why no testimonials from the survivors, like in Mariupol? Analysis of the passing car video frame by frame also may show the hand of one of the corpses moving after the car passes, and of another corpse sitting up. Some claim it is water on windshield.

Also of note is that the main video shared is not phone camera footage by bystanders, it is quite well shot footage with a decent camera, taking time to create compositions, framing in the foreground through burnt out car windows.

Could it be a case of Russian maniacs suddenly after a month taking revenge for the brutal treatment of their soldiers by Azov and other nationalist brigades? There has been a lot of horrific footage released by Azov that show them shooting captured soldiers in the knee caps and worse. I don't share those videos. Maybe, but seemingly unlikely given the footage from indie media guys like Lancaster on the ground. The numerous survivor testimonials tell a story quite opposite.

Again, the reason I started this topic was to collect at least some of the barrage of propaganda for us here on the site to take a look at and evaluate. Here is the clip of the car passing the corpses.

https://t.me/realCRP/4125

"The Russian Defense Ministry" - What else, master of lies, would he say? The Russian Mir is a very nice oxymoron. Just like the world's second military power.

March 31st, day after Russians left Bucha the Mayor announced their exit on #Ukraine -24TV. No mention of a massacre.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/1081

More independent analysis-

https://gregorflock.medium.com/the-ukraine-russia-usa-conflict-part-8-conclusive-evidence-for-a-mariupol-theatre-and-a-bucha-cde463159861

@gunlusting Every one who has known a pathological liar in their lives knows the one simple rule- accept nothing, verify everything. The mainstream media and it's agenda is so easily spotted now, as the liars have lost any sense of shame. They are all low iq showmen who read lines from a script. To give them any benefit of the doubt is ludicrous to anyone with a modicum of integrity.

It's up to independents now to do any sort of investigation, and even then they will be censored as "disinformation" for not repeating the accepted narrative. Luckily, we here at PV are an international lot. If there is truth that we are passionate about, we all have the skillset and tools to do something about it, or at least to talk to each other.

At @TheAtlantic’s #Disinfo2022 student Christopher Phillips confronted @BrianStelter about how CNN is a “purveyor of disinformation” and “all the mistakes of the mainstream media, and CNN in particular, seem to magically all go in one direction.” Stelter quipped: “Time for lunch” pic.twitter.com/jnJsFWMOLG

— Brent Baker ???????? (@BrentHBaker)

April 7, 2022

@sebolla

I think you need to read more. But what I think is of no relevance.

@endotoxic how do you know that the sources you suggest to read are indipendent??how do you know they are telling the truth??i don't trust anyone,there are sources that speaks for the west and sources that speaks for the east,all are side of one party or another... the only thing that you can't deny is that many ukranians are suffering and before 24th febrary they were in peace with some exceptions in donbass,the rest is pure speculation..

There are precedents of lies, documented and available for review, especially with the US/NATO lies over the last thirty years. Who remembers "viagra gangs", "White Helmets", "WMDs", the list goes on an on.

Independent means sources who are not getting funding and promotion by the mainstream media, state agents or NGO's which clearly have an agenda. Critical or investigative researchers are dismissed as "Russian shills". I'm putting up what I believe are reasonable doubts and valid points. You can evaluate them yourself and find ones that you believe have merit. That's how truth is discovered, not by throwing up your hands because of all the shit that's being thrown at you. I know it sucks, I can remember a time where dissenting voices were allowed. That time is gone.

There are no US mainstream journalists embedded with Azov. There is a reason for this, exemplified by Fox News reporter Benjamin Hall, who lost an eye and some limbs. His colleagues, cameraman Pierre Zakrzewski and fixer Oleksandra “Sasha” Kuvshynova were both killed by Ukrainian fire. If they were killed by Russians you would not hear the end of it. While Patrick Lancaster is embedded with DPR and Russian forces for weeks and safely reports on the ground. Make of that what you will.

And it's important to keep digging around, exactly because you can't trust any source. With all that in mind, here is a clip from a Ukrainian news show interview in 2014 where the subject clearly states that the Russians must be exterminated. It is from the Telegram channel of Xoaquin Flores.

https://t.me/NewResistance/6979

@sebolla

If you read more, you won’t have any doubts.

You can’t tell the truth, cos is something some one else said. The truth is your point of view, and if doubt is yours. Ok then add it to the narrative.

Regarding newest outrage on missile explosion at train station in Kramatorsk. Despite conflicting statements from Ukrainian officials, the missle is a Tochka-U, used only by the Ukrainians. Some said the Russians still used the obsolete missile, but Western journalists checked the serial number-it belong to UAF.