@AndrewReid_EOSHD

This forum is full of people who think East Berliners were sad when the wall fell.

Forum is also full of people who read more than first 2 paragraphs of Wikipedia article on the subject. And they even know that it was US who is responsible for Germany real division and forming of separate colony where they still control lot of stuff.

You are very simplified Andrew, and to become better you must read and think, for thousands of hours. You are capable of doing this, but still too lazy.

@AndrewReid_EOSHD

Start right away, you have lot to learn.

I find it quite strange ( from long ago) that people not necessarily from same country or even same origin look alike. There is a pattern that can be seen. I suppose they have the same inclination for certain things (my own observations ...i was lazy enough to search if science have something to say about it).

All in all this pictures might say much more than my own observations.

@Vitaliy Was thinking mostly the same but at the same time we have to realize that it's hard to see through the veil and most won't put the effort to even see the veil in front of them...

@AndrewReid_EOSHD

Yes, Andrew, and it is time for you to remove tinfoil from your head :-)

How about focusing on the dreadful state of press freedoms, and the jail conditions of protesters having their lives ruined right now in Russia merely for having the wrong opinion and letting it show.

I already told you to read simple text at provided link, yet you failed to catch more than few words meaning. As text has all answers to your questions (and ones I see you got from again... media headlines).

It seems he is regurgitating western media propaganda. He would like western puppet, and then not hear about it again. It is true lack of self-awareness. No point trying to engage in any meaningful discussion.

https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/24970/socialism-on-liberals-and-bad-dicatatorships

Any state is a dictatorship... So whether it is Putin the great underpants poisoner or Biden & the banks, Ignoring the fact that the people can vote to change the leaders of a democratic state, electing anybody they like even a reality TV star with an IQ of 76, I suppose the point you're making is that there's no such thing as a true democracy and whoever dares not to lick the ass of JPMorgan Chase will be forced at gunpoint to change.

What is it then about all these protests from within, it's always the very subjects of communism that seem most eager to get out. North Korea doesn't seem like a very appealing place to live to me. I doubt I could order LED kits and cameras off Amazon there or run a business. Let alone explore the full spectrum of creative expression with the people I meet, who have been denied satire, humour, punk, anarchy, rock & roll, even self expression as far as a different haircut goes, and you're lucky things are no longer that severe in Russia.

So all this talk in your thesis of capitol and control of the economy doesn't touch upon the emotion of what it is to be human, an individual, with the right to be wrong or to be born different. The UK stopped chemically castrating homosexuals a long time ago but in Russia they're still beaten up and abused just for being different. Your thesis does little to address right to assembly, peaceful protest, being a blogger critical of the leadership of the country, freedom of speech, unimpeded counting of votes, the income transparency of public servants, or other aspects of life the Putin dictatorship isn't too fond of.

As for capital, the economies of Taiwan, Japan, Australia, the US and UK, Europe, all have one thing in common. Democratic governance and a free market. Would you Vitaly even be writing on your forum without the silicon powering the machine, where is the Russian AMD or NVidia, where is the communist mobile phone except from all the ones from capitalist companies inside China, a capitalist economy with an unelected dictatorship for a government during a long period where the real one is still in Taiwan.

Both communism and capitalism are corrupt in many ways today, but you cannot throw stones at capitalism from a glass house.

In the West endemic corruption is the stock market, it's the property market, it's supply and demand, profiteering, corporations, cartels, liars, wars, oligarchs in London, shills on YouTube, hedge funds, shills in the media, shills for big business everywhere you look.

In your country corruption is the suppression of peaceful protestors, a biased judiciary, a rewritten constitution, Novichok poisoning of the opposition, the rule of law by fear, a mortgage crisis of the very people Putin is meant to be serving as he sits in his palace figuring out whose under pants to poison next with his cronies, the ex-stasi psychopaths running the country, the oligarchy, and the biggest weakness of all is the people who turn a blind eye to it all because they're cowards.

I fully agree that the US imposing their style of controlling capital onto other countries under threat of war is wrong and has been throughout history. Capitalism needs a valid replacement. In Berlin briefly from 1990-2010 when East & West came together for a brief moment I thought the two systems had merged harmoniously to form something better - I was wrong. The cheap rents were actually because no fucker wanted to live there :)

When a more extreme US style capitalism arrived in recent years I myself, in some ways, became another victim, of that first hand. I know the flaws of our system and our societies because I've lived it. If you live it you don't need to also read a book. I could write one instead.

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” - Asimov

This is what democracy at its best is to me:

“People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people."

And as Churchill said:

"No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

E.B. White, 1937:

We received a letter from the Writers’ War Board the other day asking for a statement on “The Meaning of Democracy.” It presumably is our duty to comply with such a request, and it is certainly our pleasure.

Surely the Board knows what democracy is. It is the line that forms on the right. It is the don’t in don’t shove. It is the hole in the stuffed shirt through which the sawdust slowly trickles; it is the dent in the high hat. Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. It is the feeling of privacy in the voting booths, the feeling of communion in the libraries, the feeling of vitality everywhere. Democracy is a letter to the editor. Democracy is the score at the beginning of the ninth. It is an idea which hasn’t been disproved yet, a song the words of which have not gone bad. It’s the mustard on the hot dog and the cream in the rationed coffee. Democracy is a request from a War Board, in the middle of a morning in the middle of a war, wanting to know what democracy is.

@AndrewReid_EOSHD

Ignoring the fact that the people can vote to change the leaders of a democratic state, electing anybody they like even a reality TV star with an IQ of 76, I suppose the point you're making is that there's no such thing as a true democracy and whoever dares not to lick the ass of JPMorgan Chase will be forced at gunpoint to change.

Are you serious writing me such thing after reading text on the link?

North Korea doesn't seem like a very appealing place to live to me. I doubt I could order LED kits and cameras off Amazon there or run a business. Let alone explore the full spectrum of creative expression with the people I meet, who have been denied satire, humour, punk, anarchy, rock & roll, even self expression as far as a different haircut goes, and you're lucky things are no longer that severe in Russia.

North Korea lives in the extreme trade, energy and resources blockade induced by US and NATO countries.

Freedom is not in the rock&roll and such shit, freedom is in the ability to change things around for the better and not have sleazy businessman caring only about his profits around.

North Korea is extremely far from ideal, but their state is defined by function it must perform - survive in extreme pressure and be independent. For now it is clear that things they are doing work.

So all this talk in your thesis of capitol and control of the economy doesn't touch upon the emotion of what it is to be human, an individual, with the right to be wrong or to be born different.

We are not talking about your emotions and "common logic" ideas, we are talking about how society actually works.

The UK stopped chemically castrating homosexuals a long time ago but in Russia they're still beaten up and abused just for being different.

First, you have issue with history as communist Mordor before 40s had been much more progressive than UK or US in this regard. And it became worse not because bad people (same as China now), but because tens of millions of people went from peasants into cities and they had certain values and beliefs.

As for idiotic mass media propaganda - we have record number of homosexuals in the government among all large countries. Head of state duma is homosexual guy. Head of biggest bank is the same :-) Number of open homosexual clubs in Moscow is staggering. Our elites are quite up to the speed here.

Do not mix that our politicians do and state to appeal to common public with actual things.

And as Churchill said:

"No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

Churchill also said more important things:

I could not help being charmed, like so many other people have been, by Signor Mussolini’s gentle and simple bearing and by his calm detached poise in spite of so many burdens and dangers. Secondly, anyone could see that he thought of nothing but the lasting good, as he understands it, of the Italian people, and that no lesser interest was of the slightest consequence to him.

If I had been an Italian I am sure that I should have been wholeheartedly with you from the start to finish in your triumphant struggle against the bestial appetites and passions of Leninism. But in England we have not had to fight this danger in the same deadly form. We have our way of doing things.

I will say a word on the international aspect of Fascismo. Externally, your movement has rendered a service to the whole world. The great fear which has always beset every democratic leader or working-class leader has been that of being undermined or overbid by someone more extreme than he: It seems that a continued progression to the Left, a sort of inevitable landslide into the abyss was characteristic of all revolutions. Italy has shown that there is a way of fighting the subversive forces which can rally the mass of the people, properly led, to value and wish to defend the honour and stability of civilised society. She has provided the necessary antidote to the Russian poison. The great mass of people love their country and are proud of its flag and history. They do not regard these as incompatible with a progressive advance towards social justice and economic betterment

Churchill

@Vitaliy

"but because tens of millions of people went from peasants into cities and they had certain values and beliefs"

This is very complex and (my opinion) is one of the reasons why many will fail to understand

@AndrewReid_EOSHD

I'll later remove last massage as you started directly reposing absolutely random unrelated mass media things.

This is totally offtopic, with same success you can post on your forum info about any medic who died from health issues in UK.

@AndrewReid_EOSHD

He died from personal health issues (as tens of thousands of people same day around the world), so stop posting non related stuff here.

You better read article 5-6 times as may be some sentences will sink through during weekend.

"In Russia now there is some kind of incomprehensible capitalism, in which the state controls more than half of the economy and commands businessmen. Such a system hinders the development of the country."

Navalny

He also hates any big local corporations (but loves US ones!) ala libertarians who want to turn them into bunch of small fighting ones.

This is the right wing position.