@Vitaliy....not so sure some aren't
Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.
https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787
For US it had been much better idea to strike in Shenzhen.
https://multimedia.scmp.com/infographics/news/china/article/3047038/wuhan-virus/index.html
Some patients who recovered from Covid-19 have suffered reduced lung function and now experience problems such as gasping for air when walking quickly, Hong Kong’s Hospital Authority has revealed.
The authority released its findings on Thursday after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients. The city has so far recorded 131 confirmed cases of Covid-19, including three fatalities. Of them, 74 patients have been discharged while one probable coronavirus case has also recovered.
Dr Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the authority’s Infectious Disease Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Kwai Chung, said doctors had already seen around a dozen discharged patients in follow-up appointments. Two to three were unable to do things as they had in the past.
“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told a media briefing on Thursday. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 per cent in lung function [after recovery].”
H.R. 6201: Families First CoronaVirus Response Act,
It is always interesting to see history of all such documents.
May be like in 9/11 they made drafts of documents before event?
DUTCH RESEARCHERS FIRST TO FIND COVID-19 ANTIBODIES: REPORT
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/14/dutch-researchers-first-find-covid-19-antibodies-report
@manstok....what unbelievably great news if it pans out. Rush the trials ! People are dying now. https://www.erasmusmagazine.nl/en/2020/03/14/unique-discovery-in-erasmus-mc-antibody-against-corona/.... https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.987958v1
....and so you think...hurrah ....humanity rising to the challenge !! They found the golden fleece...the needle in the haystack...and you go take a luke warm shower, relieved for the first time in a month, and that little tweety bird starts singing, in the distance at first. Hummm...la te da...found the needle in the haystack....just in time ? Well, that's fuxin convenient isn't it? Maybe alittle too convenient for comfort. And that's how it starts. I'll let u know tomorrow who these guys really are.
the simpson's predictive programming....
Coronavirus: From 93 infected to 0, what did this Chinese City do to contain the virus?
This video is filmed in Nanjing, by Japanese director Takeuchi Ryo. It offers a comprehensive look into Nanjing’s virus prevention measures. According to official statistics announced by Nanjing city, the number of people infected by coronavirus has gone from 93 to 0 as of 03/08/2020. We are not trying to say that all countries around the world should do exactly what Nanjing did to keep the virus from spreading. We merely want to offer some reference to those who are in need, with the hope that this video could inspire you to come up with measures that are suitable to your country.
hahaha and to think they call it "biodefense"...Erasmus Medical Center is a main player and is involved in gain-of-function research into coronavirus and others..... sing tweety bird sing.... https://globalbiodefense.com/2019/09/08/is-there-a-role-for-the-bwc-in-oversight-of-lab-created-potential-pandemic-pathogens/.... https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=6Nu058ZNa1MC&pg=PA671&lpg=PA671&dq=erasmus+involved+in+biodefense&source=bl&ots=0IW-lw-6Qu&sig=ACfU3U0xqjMvluUYk8Id3z6i_Qb_CuE6Ag&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
and if you can entertain the idea that perhaps there's an element of intentionality in all this ....written late jan..... https://i.redd.it/sfgkbkrcxsm41.jpg
leveling the playing field....new paradigm coming home to roost ....In Holland half of the icu'ers are under 50 https://www.zerohedge.com/health/not-just-seniors-french-doctors-report-50-icu-patients-under-60-years-old-netherlands-under
must read ...highly sobering.... https://i.imgur.com/lPEJ8RO.jpg
haha...this is jared kushner's brothers company. No wonder trump didn't have enough test kits. Can we get that billionaire hit squad up and running ....sooner rather than later ! https://www.hioscar.com/blog/oscar-launches-first-testing-center-locator-for-covid-19
Here in Spain, we are now really locked up two days ago. This video seemed very interesting to me. She is a doctor from Euskadi (the Basque Country), a region in the north of the country. She explains the facts of the coronavirus, and its spread, to an audience of ordinary people in a non-technical approach. But above all, he talks about the spread of fear and how to deal with it, and the importance of social responsability and the critical thinking. It's in spanish but you can turn on english subtitles.
@Knotbar...She's stating the origin is contagion from animals. No one knows this. It's exaggeration or propaganda. Then she says the symptoms are like the flu, and all the people that die would die anyway because all these old people are at the end and would die of something , completely ignoring that many deaths are not people who had prior health complication. There are many people, like the article above proves, that are dying young and healthy. And if a person has high blood pressure for example, their chance of dying from it are very very low, but with coronavirus their risk escalates to high. Then she puts doubt on whether the virus will be as bad in spain as china....like stats from italy don't exist ? Next not only does she not mention aerosol transmission as being a form of contagion, but now it's seen as the principle form of transmission. This doctor is pure propaganda meant to try to calm the masses from panic. The truth is the people who are prepared for this the best are those who panicked alittle and got prepared. In this world we live, paranoia is a valid survival mechanism
France health minister:
"We are not being able to contain the virus. At least 50-70% will be infected, lot of them will die, but virus will magically disappear after this".
This guys are delusional.
@Vitaliy...of course. That's when they're able to get to their "magical" cure stored in the WHO time vault....where all their "magical" cures are stored.
One of the ill physicians, a man in his 40s, was working in the Seattle area, where the nation’s outbreak began. “As far as we know, he had the protective equipment he needed,”
....yep, only gonna kill off us old fuxers !
Well @Kurth as you said "she puts doubt on whether the virus will be as bad in spain as china" because there are fewer people in Spain than in Wuhan. Simple. ;) The problem we are facing here, and that is whats she is talking about, is that most dangerous than the virus is the absence of equipment and personel in the hospitals because the cutoffs from past years. While, we will never get back the money that the public system lended to the banks.
It's good that paranoia works for you, I meant it. I prefer another methods and I hope that this coronavirus stuff helps us, a little at most, to recover our public care system, threatened since 2008 by the pirates of health companies from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean and their partners from here. <3
Small secret is - money does not matter much in reality.
Thing that matter is who actually owns land, resources, tools and other means of production.
Issue that we see in EU and US is that politicians and bureaucrat can't command their owners. All they can is destroy piles of small businesses in the process. And constantly tell some shitty stories.
I do not see any real required medical equipment lists, quickly transferring factories to make required stuff, making stockpiles of necessary stuff, building and reorienting hotels into real hospitals (now it is just idea to throw people into hotels and call it hospital). Btw all western hotels are actually asking government to interfere and make them into hospitals as it is best chance to survive for them.
While in China situation is better as it is still only goes to full blown capitalism.
All this stupid shop runs also come from market nature instead of proper distribution here people fully aware that they will get their part on time.
Today the President and Ministers showed up on TV asking for people and companies to give to the goverment forces the equipment they have stockpiled, giving them two days for do it. But they forgot to tell us, the viewers, what will they do to adquire thouse items after those two days are gone. Oh, and the private hospitals are throwing to the public hospitals all coronavirus cases. The insurance companies do not address the problem too.
Meanwhile the expresidents, their families and other rich people that have "second vacation home" travel from Madrid (where most coronavirus cases were arised) to the beach to take a 15 days holidays. One of them, a former right wing woman minister, came here, to this small coast town, just to fall sick with positive covid-19 results. The far-right second in command travel to Milan last week for few days tour. Now he is in quarantine, with positive in coronavirus too, after spreading it to his coleagues in various public meetings. He did blame the goverment for alowing those meetings.
We have now a mixed goverment of socialists and pseudo comunists (guys, here socialism and comunism are not words to scare people) and they are powerless to make real changes. Maybe they can't, maybe they don't want it, because one day they will be in the big companies boards, as usual, as those companies are, as you said, the real owners of the country and their commanders.
But, hey, we have a Royal Family here! (A lot of jokes this days about "Corona" (Crown) virus).
We have now a mixed goverment of socialists and pseudo comunists (guys, here socialism and comunism are not words to scare people) and they are powerless to make real changes. Maybe they can't, maybe they don't want it, because one day they will be in the big companies boards, as usual, as those companies are, as you said, the real owners of the country and their commanders.
Again - thing that matter is who actually owns land, resources, tools and other means of production.
Issue that we see in EU and US is that politicians and bureaucrat can't command their owners.
Elites feel and fear something, hence very strange Macron promises to reverse all that he had been doing.
Contrary to PR gurus - it is very hard to change people opinion as they see their relatives die and piles of corpses on the street.
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