@Vitaliy_Kiselev precisely

@bernie

The issue here is the right iso setting for optimal performance.

I think the announced based iso is not what they say. It is not dual native iso. It is an implementation which was adapted to run "like" dual native iso, but it is not. It is the Hdr feature on sensor, that is emulating another phisical readout, you could understand by seeing the sensor technical papers.

What I meant is that this sensor has an ideal dynamic range on an ideal iso. We don't have that real information. From what I've seen iso 800/ 2500 seem the right one, but I can't say due to improper testing. And marketing lies.

All images shown on videos tell the same story. Overwhelming low light for m4/3, but detail and dynamic range being affected by noise reduction implementation, and sensor properties.

So... This camera ha an ideal range... I can't find it since the "dual native iso emulator" give us two values that are not native in nature of the sensor. This, I belive in variacam series, in this case, it is not.

So just for being tansparent, from my stand point, this dual native iso is pure marketing. This is bad for pros who understand sensor behaviour in a very technical way. Makes me doubt about real limits.

From what I've seen iso 6400 is the limit of clean.

@bwhits

Yes my friend. Panalenses distort the natural characteristic of things, since they are electronically corrected on camera, all its bad habits. Chromatic aberration, distortion and else. I don't know too what extent in the video mode this is implemented, but on photo its surely running.

Panasonic lenses are extremely high detailed lenses that make footage with clinical characteristics. This for me renders the worst and most plastic images on the market. Grate for showing camera capabilities, not for story telling.

I never use Panalenses on my rig. Not a way to get constant results on follow focus, behaviour and character.

@Bwhits

NR is so deeply implemented on Gh5s video that as. Someone noticed, its too Deep to really know what it true or not.

That is why a hack on this camera could make a real diference game changer. I wonder only playing with matrixes and codecs could make Gh5s a troyano horse

This post can also help you to perceive if you need IBIS. It talks about situations for using handheld camera:

http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/17221/handheld-camera-shooting-why-and-when

I can’t believe the hate of ibis Here! For weddings, events, some promo work, the ibis has changed the way i shoot for the better!

That being said it’s not for every instance and big productions don’t need it when they have rigging.

@endotoxic “Ibis is OK for amateur of special needs.”

I agree.

ibis is a floating sensor hold by magnetic force. Cant lock it. Gh5 don't have it.

I'm not a hater, I love ibis is a grate tech.

GH5 vs GH5S on snowmobile rig (skip to 3:15s to see start of comparison)

@endotoxic Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment. I understand now you meant that Panasonic does not have an option to lock it in place. I also don't think it would cost a fortune but they would have to redesign there IBIS module to hold the multiaspect sensor. That would probably take some R&D $$. Hopefully they will and put a multi aspect sensor in the GH6 as well. While there at it add Dual ISO and than just maybe the GH5s becomes redundant.

I'm pretty sure that the s line will be included in future versions. About the ibis lock system, IST NOT hard, is only a lock to the magnesium frame.

What should be interesting would be dumping eva1, rebump the new LSI and add accessories to gh6 with all FPGAs that are getting rust on their factories, all the available from varicam SDI, raw output etc. Sell those modules in 1000 a piece.

For example $1000 x3 SDI output. 10bit 4:2:2 120fps. 4k . 8k 60p 10bit 4:2:2, is FPGA heaven good profit.1 SDI for uncompressed output, other monitoring and extra one for viewfinder that could. Be sold by Panasonic themselves. Put your that G9 viewfinder a bigger enclosure, put your code on so can be only compatible with gh's module. I'll pay $600 for a proper one.

Audiomodule is already implemented, but making a cable to move it around for like 30cm would be a killer feature. $150

Module for high frequency wireless transmitting. $400 add to 1 SDI outup from other module.

What would be a killer killer feature and it is possible would be making those Panasonic lenses its own line of cinema ones. Better build up mechanical features focus by wire those tech they use to defocus metadata and all that. Make parafocal line. I'll assure good buys. They already have the options and optics. Casing their own designs it's not that expensive. Begin with 5 line steup. 16 24 35 50 85.