Yet a number of health related industry reps opposed this.

Because it is expenses :-) System that made to sales and profit can't work good for people needs.

@caveport

Of course. Do you live at the Capitalism Eden 1 ?

@Vitaliy "Of course. Do you live at the Capitalism Eden 1 ?"

No. I live in a country with a reasonable health care system. Whenever a politician with a leaning to the right suggests modifying it to try to move money into the private insurers hands, the public outcry is deafening. You don't need socialism to make things work, just an informed and moderately intelligent population. An even better example is Singapore. 100% ruling-class right wing capitalism with a hint of democracy and fantastic Government run health, housing & education systems. OK, it's not perfect, but just about ANYTHING is better than the USA's "If you can't afford it, well just F O and die" attitude. I call it "Pay or Pray".

Medical debt is No. 1 reason people file for bankruptcy

About 1 in 10 adults delay medical care due to costs.

1 in 5 working-age Americans with health insurance have trouble paying off their medical bills

60% of people who have problems paying their medical bills have been contacted by a collection agency in the past year.

Singapore or Switzerland are living from hosting banks as a safe haven. It's their 'natural resource'.

Rich Arabian oil possessing countries have an excellent health care system too – for their citizens. But beware if you are one of their slaves from poor countries like the Philippines or Bangladesh…

Well there's a solid scientific approach. Facepalm

@caveport

Thing that I said is basic knowledge. If you feel offended if someone want you to go and read bit of history and look at the map to understand place value, well, you are hopeless.

Did you know that Lee Kuan Yew was a communist? Yes, that's right! He turned Singapore into a kind of dictatorship with hints of democracy.

I am always amazed that you manage to do instead of self education:-)

Singapore official student book

"There was always a significant Chinese-educated faction within the party that held a different political view. From its founding, this faction was led by Lim Chin Siong, who adopted violent strategies through riots and street demonstrations. As this division developed, it split the party into two wings: the non-communist wing led by Lee Kuan Yew and the communist wing led by Lim Chin Siong."

Who Lim Chin Siong was..

Lim Chin Siong was a leftwing politician and trade union leader in Singapore in the 1950s and 1960s. He co-founded the People's Action Party in 1954, and galvanised many trade unions in support of the party with his popularity.

He was advertised above as "communist" but he was really trade unionist.

Lim had also denied consistently that he was a Communist. He did so for the last time in 1995, in the final interview he gave before he died.

Surprise. He had some common ground as communists also organized and helped with unions strikes. But he actually never shared any of the communist goals.

Now more on your stunt with Lee himself as "communist"

Communist Party used violent action in support of union demands; as increasing violence led to the threat of a full-scale rebellion, the British colonial government declared a State of Emergency in 1948 that would not be lifted until 1960. The Malay Communist Party was suppressed once more; their anti-Japanese forces re-emerged as the Malayan National Liberation Army (MNLA) and fought a guerrilla war against Commonwealth forces.

Lee made a name for himself in Singapore as legal counsel for two left-wing issues. He represented the Postal Worker’s Union during a strike and was rarely out of the local papers, issuing a barrage of statements and letters to editors. Lee helped to win significant concessions for the Union from the colonial government. Student activists who were backing the strike turned to Lee to defend them against charges of sedition for the publication of a student journal. Lee—ironically, given his later repressive dealings with the Singaporean press—argued for the inviolable right of the students to freedom of speech. The charges against the students were dismissed; the high-profile case established Lee as a champion of the left.

He and a group of like-minded friends formed a new political party, the People’s Action Party (PAP). Lee became secretary-general. The new party had solid Trade’s Union support.

Trade union leaders Fong Swee Suan and Lim Chin Siong were fluent in Chinese and had access to networks in the unions and Chinese middle schools.

For Singapore's independence, he was prepared to seek common cause with anyone who signed up to the PAP's anti-colonial, socialist, non-communist agenda.

So, Lee Kuan Yew together with a group of fellow English-educated middle-class men whom he himself described as "beer-swilling bourgeois", formed the 'socialist' People's Action Party (PAP) in an expedient alliance with the trade unionists.

Trade union approach was common in UK to counter communist ideas with approach called "economism".

And how Lee loved so called "pro communists"

Operation Coldstore was a security operation launched in Singapore on 2 February 1963 in which at least 111 anti-government left-wing activists were arrested and detained, including key members of the opposition political party Barisan Sosialis. Others arrested included newspaper editors, trade unionists and university students. The operation, authorised by the Internal Security Council which comprised representatives from the British Colonial, Malaysian Federal and Singapore governments, was touted as an anti-Communist sting.

It does not require much time to find later "achievements".

@caveport

Can I look at the part of autobiography where he talk that he was member of communist party?

Only source I could find is exactly same fuzzy book reference you got from Wikipedia.

Singapore official student book = propaganda. You of all people should know this!

It is first citation and later from other sources it is shown that it was never any pro-communist wings in PAP.

I will not comment further. This topic is closed for me. Just as you refuse to discuss anything relating to your country, I refuse to go any further into this.

If you ask me, I don't care. Response was not written for you, but for readers.