Can this be used as a Hackintosh?

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-d54250wyk.html

Hi, all! I'm in the research stages of putting together a hackytosh, and I have a few questions related to CUDA and OpenCL with Resolve/FCX/Logic X. First, is it correct that Apple's programs don't take advantage of CUDA? Second, if that is true, would an AMD 7970 be a better option with these programs over the Nvidia 6xx cards? Or is CUDA with Resilve just too good to pass up?

I'm hoping I can put together something that would be able to tackle 4K content down the road, or at least something that will be upgradable to that level when the time comes.

@B3Guy i think the amd will be a better card for fcpx but @alcomposer has hands on experience with that card and how it works with fcpx if i'm not mistaken. There is also a golden build on tonymacx86, the rampage extreme iv that has an amd variation build http://www.tonymacx86.com/user-builds/94200-asus-x79-rampage-iv-extreme-core-i7-3930k-radeon-hd-7970-ghz-3gb.html

I did read that with the new 10.8.5 it is having problems but i'm sure it'll be figured out. At the moment i'm awaiting the release of mavericks and what that will do to the x79 builds. Hopefully they'll become as easy as the others.

@B3Guy I'm hearing that the 79xx card on Mavericks is great, better than CUDA. Also heard that there should be lots of love for OpenCL in Resolve once the Mac Pro comes out.

@RRRR The Thunderbolt board (ga-z77x-up5-th) Tonymac was recommending was for Z77 processors: http://www.tonymacx86.com/golden-builds/73112-updated-storks-thunderbolt-build-i5-3570k-ga-z77x-up5-th-gtx-650-ti-mountain-lion.html I'd guess it's EOL now.

I don't see one listed for the new Z87 processors. Watch at TonyMac for developments.

My build was on a GA-Z77-UD5H board, it was pretty easy after the initial hurdles were overcome and the USB 3.0 is so fast, I think only an SSD in RAID 0 can take advantage of the Thunderbolt speeds. At $40 a cable Thunderbolt sounds too painful for my wallet.

+1 @vicharris It's a great mobo. BTW - I just sold mine over the weekend... sniff sniff, miss that old beast of a computer. iMac and laptop are more than enough for me these days.

"Does a complex timeline with some layers and a bunch of HD (2K 1/2 resolution) files with audio effects + visual effects (color correction, stabilization) play (back) fluently in the reference monitor ? (without rendering/ previewing)"

My build is from Feb. 2013: an i7 3770k on the GA UD5H mobo, 16 GB RAM with a 1.25 GB GTX 570.

I have just finished editing a wedding video that a still photog shot who is trying to break into video. He's admits he F'ed it up and asked for my help. All 1080 29.97i. Lots of shaky handheld, and cameras in Auto WB. I had to stabilize every handheld shot in a 2 cam multicam shoot of the ceremony and then CC on top of that.

I am relatively new to PPro CS6 coming from FCP 7.

Previous edits have been 2 streams of AVCHD multicoated, edited natively. I was blown away by the performance. I never had to wait on the machine while editing, it was waiting on me!

(Soon I will be editing a project with 3 streams of GH2 AVCHD multicam. I am interested to see how the machine performs. I also have an overclocked GTX 470 which performed better than my GTX 570, but, ran hot and would eventually become unstable. It needs some new paste, a better cooler or to flash the card with a slower clock speed. I am on a $125 ebay MSI GTX 570 for now with zero GPU problems).

That said, this was the first edit that challenged my machine: I had 3 hours of material, from 2 different cameras. I edited natively. I also worked in chunks, with the Eastern Orthodox ceremony taking up 20 minutes and requiring Warp Stab on every other shot (handheld cam). Everything worked brilliantly until I added the warp stab to all the shots that needed it. That really bogged the machine down analyzing each clip, took up all the RAM, I left it over night to curn through it. It did it. It also bloated the project file with all that anaylize data (typical) and that made saving the file take ca. 2 minutes at a go. The 20 minute project was still responsive to work with, but a little slower to display if I jumped around a lot. I then pasted it all together in to one 42 minute time line for the export. Then I experienced a display lag if I jumped around in the timeline, sometimes waiting 1 minutes for the machine to catch up. I don't know if that's typical. It was my first long, complicated edit with lots of Ken Burns effects on stills and patched up poorly shot video.

To export a H264 version of the 42 minutes took 2 hours to render out.

I think the machine did great and I reached the limits of what one can expect from PPro with such crap footage. PPro has a habit of hogging your RAM and I could see that in the activity monitor. I would think more RAM would have helped. Seriously the Photog said it's the customer's fault for hiring him. He's an idiot, but, a colleague.

Other than that, I think eventually I will go for a stronger GTX7xx graphics card when they come down in price and another 16 GB of RAM (Ram prices spiked after I got the initial 16 GB).

I feel it's the best mac I have ever owned: It's the fastest and the cheapest and stabler than the early intel MBP laptops were. I would just suggest to alway have a clone of your boot drive (put extra $ into having a bulletproof back-up plan). Always clone before you upgrade the OS. Also I think the recent 10.8.5 inc. update 1.0 broke USB 3.o for a lot of people. A fix is coming I am sure, but, if you rely on those drives, you might be better off just using internal drives.

Also I would stick to the TonyMac golden builds. There you will find the most help if you get into trouble. I was torn to go for the Thunderbolt version of my board, but am glad I didn't. The cables alone make it not worth the price. USB 3 is faster that the mechanical HD inside, and is working best if you have it running off your Intel Mobo port (not the Via Hub). Going into territory they aren't exploring with new processors, no speedster, etc. sounds like trouble to me. I am a DP, not a computer engineer and I want to keep it that way.

Out of curiosity I looked recently and didn't see a Haswell Thunderbolt mobo recommended by TonyMAc anyway.

I would say if you can afford a mac, go buy one and be done. I know the new coke can MacPro is not my choice of a machine either. I want it all in a box. If you can't afford or wait for a MacPro AND YOU HAVE a tech aptitude for computers and don't mind testing your system and reading forums, you can build an awesome stable machine. Just be ready to invest some time instead of money. You also need to know how the Mac works pretty well, and the TonyMAc guys are counting on you wanting to learn the extra mile to get yourself up & running. Like here, there is some serious know how there.

The Hackintosh is essentially the same hardware as a mac, with a bootloader that allows you to boot your choice of OS. I also have Win7 on my machine (in case I need it).

I also have a 2008 MacPro 2x2.8 GHz which I have never bothered to try using PPro on. I will soon when I try to sell it and will experiment with my GTX 570 in it, to try and sell it as a PPro machine. I bought it for FCP7 and I was disappointed to see FCP 7 could only use 1 of the 8 processors. FCP X didn't utilize the full power of the GPU and was, not my kind of editor, so PPro it is for now. It's fast and snappy on my Hackintosh.

Good luck and let us know what you settle on.

@CFreak Thanks so much, For your detailed story about your experiences.

It sounds good, and positive, although some things worry me (like waiting 1 minute for the machine to catch up...). My timelines will be sometimes more complex, so I wonder how your machine holds up with 3 streams of GH2 etc.. If I eventually choose for the 'consumer' socket, it will be at least a bit faster than yours, i7 4770, better GTX card and 32 GB Ram. I hope that will do for me

You wrote: "I also have a 2008 Mac Pro 2x2.8 GHz" Mine is 2x 3.1, and I put a SSD boot drive in that made a big difference already.

My geekbench is around 11K (which I think is not bad for an almost 6 years old machine), but many of the i7 3770/ 4770K only get a 15 -17 K compared to i7 3930K that get around 19-21K geekbench

About your "Alexis Van Hurkman food for thought", are you suggesting to buy a 2nd hand Mac Pro from 2010, or?

Thnx , I hope some more people can Share their experiences.

Never let your Hack auto update on anything. Check manually or ask before it updates anything.

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The first Late 2013 Hackintosh Pro is here... in body and spirit, but not in performance. Granted it's not blazing fast and may melt down at anytime, no need to throw it in the trash since it's made from a trash can anyway:

http://www.tonymacx86.com/mac-pro-mods/120757-mac-pro-late-2013-replica.html

Ha, ha, ha :-)

With a temp of 127 degrees celsius, you could also dry your hair and heat the room with it! lol!

You want to see pictures of the inside. I thought about modding a G5 case, but ended up very happy with a PC case b/c you can put more 3.5" and 5.25" drives in and swap parts much more easily. The interior of a G5 case needs a lot of modding to work and then it's tight. It's really a lot of work to do it well and then you've short changed yourself, since you don't have much room.

You also want to see a picture of the back panel with in/out ports, than can be done nicely for $ or can look like shiiiit. My guess is they aren't showing what they don't want you to see…..