I can confirm most of this from my tests too. The Pocket is surprisingly close in quality. Given it's size and weight, I can imagine that the decision is guided more by the intention of rigging it up (which defeats this advantage) vs. shooting unobtrusive or even clandestine.

The latter will need small lenses for sure, I'm gonna append to my lens C-mount tests over the next few days, today it's the wide end.

BTW, I couldn't find massive advantages in grading of the whole frame between shooting RAW or ProRes on the BMCC with my color chart tests. Of course there will be advantages with chroma keying or color based qualifiers in post.

@jakepowell

with due respect to your grading work for me it is a good sample for limitations how far you can push the BMD RAW files. In theory quite a lot and for some shots it may work - but in the BMCC landscape shot you see the color moire issue clearly even in the small waves of the sea area. As you push colors to more saturation and added contrast color moiré is pushed too :-/

@peaceonearth its prores file not raw i should imagine raw is better. but yes i agree it has been pushed far and yes it does show moire in the waves , also check the palm trees in the bmcc shot for more funky stuff. i'll try harder. im not the most experienced in this by any means. and despite my engagement in this i agree with @vicharris either of these and gh2/2/3 or whatever are fine tools to get the proper thing done which is to get out there and tell stories visually (however seeing as this is a bmpcc thread i would say that argument it reserved for another place)

@jakepowell it was no review of your work but of the limitations of the BMCC.

@peaceonearth ahah been there ... try shooting a tweed like grey fabric upholstered chair ... @vicharris i think you may be right. but until someone does one or we do we just wont know... i think prores is the only thing available at this time?

@vicharris if only, its an advert for the chair ;) (sorry off topic)

Looks like Philip Bloom just got his BMPCC, and he has posted footage.

http://philipbloom.net/2013/08/19/coming-soon/

Here's the link to his footage:

https://philipbloom.wetransfer.com/downloads/ebff4627e2ad5492d32379162d9890f420130819204706/edcc1d13feb4373dc06f6f9bca2959f420130819204706/a878af

For users of this forum, I am currently uploading it to Vimeo. It looks good on a 27" display.

From the folks at Cheesycam, BMPCC. Lumix MFT lenses, and Rokinon 8mm, Atomos Ninja: original MOV file

http://cheesycam.com/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-rode-videomic-pro-captured-on-atomos-ninja-2/

The cheesycam footage is the closest I have seen to some well shot and stable footage out of the camera so far.

However...I still feel very underwhelmed by the quality of the picture. Maybe this is down to the lenses chosen, but if you are paying around £1000 for glass like the Lumix 35-100 you would expect good results?

It seems the "Aukland in my pocket" gave us the highest quality footage I have seen out of this cam so far..now was that more down to the quality of the Canon glass used rather than the cam itself?

@Imackreath

The cheesycam footage is the closest I have seen to some well shot and stable footage out of the camera so far.

Really? The cheesycam stuff is far from the best I've seen. Did you see JB's night stuff?

The BMCC has a bit more resolution, but it is limited by massive moiré too…

(Same lens as on BMPCC)

@nomad, is the BMCC chart from ProRes or RAW?

@feonn

BMCC has a resolution of 2432 x 1366px. If you open the chart file in a new window and zoom in you will see that it's full resolution. Still ouch.