3 GOP 'Spizz' - Hi-Quality - Pro Motion

Update News (19/08/2013): Spizz Trial 6 is released!

3 GOP expert Katsu (aka @bkmcwd) and r&d PAL specialist @towi put together some ongoing ideas of theirs and mine in this new setting of the experimental Spizz series. We've chucked out so many variations before deciding to release this that I was beginning to think T6 will never be realised! Anyways, what we've got is the best looking 3 GOP in areas of quantisation, bitrate spread and measured performance for all 1080 modes. 720 is 6 GOP.

There's some unusual values in the Top bitrate settings - an experiment based on a Texas Instruments formula of 'maxbitrate is 1.5 times that of actual bitrate' under the current rate control - but everything is allocated in AVCHD Compression accordingly and close to what you can expect.

For the first time we see the 1080i matrix adapted more towards the left side (not just top left) as an interlaced slice is scanned differently to progressive slices which I believe improves the spread of QP values and DC coefficient range in the low frequencies. Certainly the results on Elecard look good.

Ive tried hard to make this work with iA modes or iDynamic and though it passes my tests some of you may find that it may / or may not pass yours. So trial away.

Spizz T6 on average offers similar bitrate consumption to previous Spizz releases and settings like Flow Motion but is much more constant - qualified by the higher QP values without any lineage breakup in the overall picture.

• 24p 100Mbps average can go much higher if pushed. The best QP around (below QP10 for most pics).

• 720p modes on 6 GOP and refined to work with iDynamic/iA modes - 55Mbps avg

• 1080i/HBR modes around 68Mbps avg finely measured matrix and quantisation. (QPs below 10!)

• Great sound from Per Lichtman of Pasadena Pulse AKA @thepalalias

• The best mjpeg mode from Driftwood (anamorphic users should experiment with their own frame sizes)

Don't forget to donate to Vitaliy's link above if you use this setting.

GOP3 Spizz T6 versus Flowmotion v202

12/15 GOP 'DREWnet' T9 - Traditional Long GOP 12 (PAL) / 15 (NTSC)

Update News (Monday 22nd July) DREWnet T9 released today. Including the findings of moon T7 (read above) You'll get a QP of 1 throughout many less busy pictures but most pictures will resolve sub QP of 10. Death charts code at a quant of around 15-16 average!

• Superior Quantisation

• 80Mbps constant in 24p modes for exceptional quality.

• 1080i/FSH Maybe only around 40Mbps but the quantisation and PSNR is brilliant!

• 720p modes Just the best there is.

• iA and iDynamic modes simply work!

• MJPEG mode - best available (like moon)

• Per Lichtman stunning audio resolution.

To download Click on the file icon link below labeled 'DREWnet T9.zip'

Here's Cluster X 'DREWnet T8' in action courtesy of Matteo Sacher ( @microfourthirduser ):-

Continuing with some of the "motion blur" talk from series 2, I've found this is as well in my first tests of Moon 7. I always test first with static, well lit and properly exposed shots of me talking, and I'm about as animated as most humans but I do "talk with my hands" as they say, and the blur is noticeable as I'm hammering home a real earth shattering point. I transcoded to Cineform, and then rendered out to MP4 with Vegas Pro, avg 25 MB, peaking 50. Shooting w/ Lumix 20 and 14. But then again, I've also become accustomed to shooting at 1/40 with GH2, and I'm using the same 45 MB/s cards as danielortega is, which could be part of the problem. (?)

Apart from that, the setting is really nice. Viewing on my JVC HD projector at 120 inches I wouldn't say it's too soft. I'm testing out various settings for a project I have coming up, and honestly I'm still quite a fan of the original Intravenus with the '444 Soft', and I like stuff in focus, John Ford/William Wyler depth of field etc, and it holds up pretty darn nice. Anyway, if my tests weren't me talking like an idiot about the Spring Breakers Blu Ray I'd put it up, but that'd be too embarrassing, so I'll keep testing out some stuff, including 1/50 shutter, and the 'B' and 'C' trials, etc. Again this isn't much of a complaint, these settings are terrific and the work is appreciated big time.

Yay! Thankyou @WarLightUK Love it. :-)

@warlightUK what lens? and did you mess with the colors at all to get the moon to look more white? or was the moon actually that color temp?

@driftwood 7c and 1/50 looks a little better, I see a few clips that for some reason appear to having a "slow motion" playback. it appears less actual "motion" blur (probably thanks to 1/50) but it's more looks like a crazy frame rate/slow motion? and my pc shouldn't be lagging in playback via VLC, 32gig of ram and a geforce gtx 690 overall from a-c was huge improvements, I'm going to grade some stuff and render it out to a more natural format and see if the playback looks a little cleaner.

moon 7c overall is probably the best setting since sedna, intravenous, and moon t3&5. ALL of the settings are really nice and tons of hard work was put into each, but those 4-5 settings I just mentioned just have something extra special about them : )

@GravitateMediaGroup The lens is Lumix 100-300mm... Didn't do any colour correction but the WB was set to 5200K

@jeffharriger

the more I watch the footage the more I think it's fine now. I really think this setting doesn't play well with 1/40, and either whatever @Driftwood did made a huge difference, or 1/50. Only way to really know is to shoot some 7a footage at 1/50 and compare.

@matt_gh2 cinema, and I believe -2

currently uploading some 7c footage

Its as stable as you stand.

@driftwood but what is the real difference in video quality if both REDshift v1b and v1 have the same bitrate, i mean it has QP10 VS QP16, but what that gives in practical usage? disregarding incamera playback.

I think I might have found the cadence weirdness. Moon Trial 7 seems to be recording at exactly 24 fps, not the expected 23.976. Both Premiere Pro and KMPlayer report this 24 fps frame rate. When I added that to a 23.976 sequence, I got the weirdness. When I watched the clip in KMPlayer, it looked fine. When I created a 24 fps sequence, it also looked fine in PP.

So the question: Is this exact 24 fps by design? I believe Blu-ray can handle it, and film is usually at exactly 24, so this might be a good thing.

@Jim_Simon When you shoot with other settings and then Moon Trial 7 right after without changing any other variables, do some of them get reported differently than others? Or could they be getting interpreted that way across the board? Ditto for framerates for each in KMPlayer (or VLC).

@thepalalias I went back and checked my other footage, including some recent Moon T5, and they all report 23.976. Moon T7 is the first I've ever seen report as exactly 24 in three different programs (now including VLC).