I'm guessing BMPCC will be able to get the same look with the same lenses since it's the same sensor.

It definitely will have the same look. I'm just hoping the detail will be roughly the same... somewhere around a 900-line measurement would be good enough for me.

I think my Old Nikons with the speed booster on the pocket cam will compete with the Zeiss. They already look awesome on the GH3 without the booster.

Slow down, Kholi is a beta tester. I've seen his camera.

@Brian202020 , can you make some tests with Lumix 12-35 lens on BMPCC ? Film and Video mode ?

@kazuo

Could you possibly post some frame grabs from your various Zeiss lenses?

Where is a good place to pre-order from? I know B&H is accepting, but I imagine everyone is ordering from them. Would going with an alternative be better?

Gonna try to fit the responses in one post for you guys:

@killagram

I've only used the 25/0.95 Voigtlander on my MFT Blackmagic so far, and that I do have footage of BUT I want to revisit the comparison I did between the SLRMagic 25 HyperPRime and the Voigtlander 25. I will definitely try out the 17.5 if I can get my hands on it. I'm not a huge fan of it, to be honest.

Sort of restating this, but I also prefer the SLR 25 Hyperprime over the Voigtlander 25 mostly because the SLR is sharper wide open, and I like the quirky "cinema" like build. The Voigtlander is definitely a tighter lens in terms of build, and has a more neutral cast versus the SLR Hyperprime 25's warmer cast, which puts the Voigtlander into a more "Zeiss" realm. Price may or may not be a consideration for some.

The 17.5/0.95 looks the same, to me, but the reality's that it's the only 17/0.95 out there (isn't it?) or at least around that price range, so it gets a pass regardless.

@TGDude

I understand you, about Zeiss. I've mostly shot Zeiss in my "career" or whatever one might call it, haha. And, from there, it's Cooke. New Zeiss optics all carry a very distinct feel, one that's highly sought after by many. It's an expense, no doubt, but it's a very good look. Ultra PRimes are my favorites.

A few of the Blackmagic clips up are with Zeiss ZEs and that specific project I'm actually finishing up post on today, it's a fake horror trailer/short film that we used as a camera test, self motivator, and a youtube channel launcher so it'll be up within the next few days if not today if you want to see various situations, focal lengths, run-n-gun with the glass.

@Trumpetman

I own a few old Nikkors and I do not like them on BV1 (Blackmagic V1). This is the first time where I've come to the conclusion that it's time to put away the old glass and pick up some newer samples. Having a look at some test images of Contax Zeiss (full set, german copies, all the fast primes) side by side with Zeiss ZE/ZF's from BV1 showed that. But, it's a preference.

Speed Booster is going to be a good choice, though.

@Chaos123x

Yeah, what Vic said. My MFT's a Pre-Production/Production run camera aka I'd be a tester for sure. MFT-BV1 isn't cancelled at all, but I can see how some people might fear that due to the silence.

@LongJohnSilver

It's a smaller sensor, so it may not be an issue. WE'll have to see. It'll be one of the first things I test when I get my camera.

@Kazuo

It's strange, but I think the SLR 25 is actually more practical than the Voigt 25, but I guess that's up to the individual. I do prefer Zeiss over Voigt, hands down.

Really looking forward to getting my own Pocket and Production cameras.

@kholi

I'm hoping the silence is due to a active mount upgrade. Day one purchase if it does have it. I'm still torn between the pocket and the bmcc mft.

@Trumpetman -- I'm pretty confident about the resolved detail matching GH3 and GH2, however out of the box the "sharpness" won't be there. The only in-camera processing option's shooting VIDEO dynamic range, which means there's no extra added sharpness, unlike the GH3 etc. As well, no internal noise reduction going on.

So, I can imagine that some of the first things we'll hear about are "Why is my GH3 sharper?", and then we'll have this discussion a few hundred times as the transition on the low end begins.

Simultaneous conversation also includes Noise and Noise Reduction.

As far as glass matching, I've never been a major fan of Lumix lenses but I do think they'll be a hit here. Just a thought, anyway.

@Chaos123x

That's a difficult decision. Pocket is going to be great, but I do really enjoy shooting with MFT BV1. I acquired an EF BV1 from someone that didn't want to handle the workflow and was more suited to getting a GH2, so having both for a while I do like MFT for the Hyper Fast Glass.

@qwerty123 Definitely HotRod Cameras. And try some smaller shops if you're in the LA area.

Also, try quiet US States... believe it or not, I recommended to a friend to go to his local shops and try to preorder EF-BV1, he got his camera like ONE week later than his preorder, while everyone else was still waiting. Oof.

Adorama, as well.

@TrackZillas

Let's remember sharpness is not the same as resolution. GH3's equipped with internal processing in that regard, BPC won't be.

Earlier the pre-order, the more likely you are to get it I'm sure. There were a lot of Preorders the day of at BH though!

@Kholi so that means the BMPCC will has greater resolution than the GH3 than am I right.. Love the way the images look on the Pocket camera soo similar to his bigger brother BMC. Man if I would of known I would of ordered though Hot-Rod as well, but I believe I'll get it from the first shipment to B&H.

The 35-70 and 28-85 are v nice lenses indeed (apart from being dust hoovers) lovely sharp and Zeiss character. The 35-70 is parfocal also - some contax zeiss tests here with the speedbooster.