@driftwood @bkmcwd For an upcomming event monday night I tested Cluster X Series: 3 GOP 'Spizz' from bkmcwd Trial 4 (Released 12/02/2013).

My cam settings: Profile: Standard all 0 Iso: 2000 Shutter: 1/50 Dynamic contrast in use / I.R. on Manual optic 17mm, high detail PAL FSH mode (need compatibility to broadcaster) Sandisk 64gb 95mb

Spanning til power of (1 hour 40 minutes)! Accu was not fully loaded. 5 times tested. 5 times same result. Recordingtime only depends on accu power.

Perfect!!

A big THX

I don't know how to read the charts but from what I'm looking at is the 24p Promotion chart indicating that it is better than Flowmotion?

@peternap and @all, Moon FH and H modes span with no problems. I have already tested them.

@peternap. ISO 1600 uses higher bitrate because of the additional light. If you check the bitrates of the two footages you will see the difference.

My first grade test with Moon, this was shot bright and then brought down to this level, and I did my best to pull details where I felt necessary. I am no grading pro though, so criticism is welcome. It did feel like Moon graded very easily and gave me more room to play than most if not all patch settings I have used before

When people say " drewnet with low qp is better for static shots than moon".. How static are we talking?.. I always use tripods but film talking heads.. Weddings etc.. There is a lot of movement within the frame but not a lot of actual panning and movement of the camera. With this in mind would moon or drewnet be more suitable?

@driftwood thanks, with that in mind with the kind of shooting I do I guess it would be best to start with moon and see how it fairs.. Just wish I would get some nice clear days to shoot in this miserable British weather!

@rapsoe, i already used OSX's disk tool to completely overwrite the disk, i tried sdformatter but that had zero influence on the speed after already using OSX's disk till which can mostly do the same what sdformatter mainly does.

@peternap. I agree with you. There are different factors involved in spanning such as bitrate, zooming, image detail etc... I like Moon setting. Here is what I did to further stabilize Moon for my needs. I combined sharp matrix of Moon Trial 4 with quantization of Moon trial 3 (16). Then I reduced the high end bitrate for 1080i and 720p from 93MB to 88MB and raised the lower end from 48MB to 58MB. Of course I adjusted the top and bottom bitrate setting values to match the changes. This change further stabilized FSH/SH giving me upto 80+ MB and I get higher bitrates and better quality at FH/H (FH 50-65MB, H 40-50MB). When I need spanning, I just use FH and H with good quality. I also tested 24p mode last night and it spanned with no problems. Cheers.

I do use a modified version of Spizz Trial 4 (PAL modes adjusted)… however, FWIW, spanning works fine in HBR (25p), FSH (50i) and SH (720p50) modes on SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC as well as on SanDisk 95MB/s 32GB SDHC cards.

24H (24p = unaltered Spizz Trial 4) spans on SanDisk 95MB/s 64GB SDXC (failed on SanDisk 95MB/s 32GB SDHC; also 24L failed on this card).

Scenes tested for spanning utilized an average bitrate of around 67M in HBR & FSH modes, 113M in 24H mode and 52M in SH mode. Attached a screenshot with data of the scene I've shot to test spanning in HBR/25p and FHS/50i modes (scrub in the snow); the scene didn't require the codec to produce very large I-Frames and to utilize the highest bitrate, however 67M is not far from it. (just for clarification: the screenshot shows the data of a short 15'' clip I've shot prior to the spanning test as I didn't want to load 4GB in Streamparser's JM-SP decoder).

Spizz is really a great all around setting! In HBR/25p mode motion is not quite as smooth as in the Valkyrie settings (especially Valkyrie 444). Since Spizz is noticeably sharper than Valkyrie in HBR/25p mode this may also contribute to the impression of a slightly smoother motion in Valkyrie. But motion looks really good also with Spizz.

Thousands of thanks to @driftwood and @bkmcwd - great work!!!

Shot with Moon 3 last week, about to load up 5 and head out within the hour to shoot similar stuff. Will report back this evening.

@Mirrorkisser by now I haven't shot Spizz in 24p mode much. I can't draw conclusions from the few tests I did. With regard to technical benchmarks both produce very similar results… with Spizz constantly showing a lower QP on the same scenes (but also showing a slightly higher QP range in I Frames). In HBR (25p) mode Spizz is sharper than Valkyrie … maybe this is also true for 24p. But, again, I can't comment yet.

@driftwood Since I shoot your Intra patches without exception in 24p mode I can't comment on the balance of HBR/FSH/SH modes. The 3GOP 720p50 in Spizz is really good - so I think going back to 6GOP is not really necessary.

As to the matrix...: we have a huge selection of Dritwood Intra patches for different looks to choose from. For the concept of Moon I think it would be reasonable to produce the finest details possible without applying in-camera sharpening. Therefore I'd vote for the slightly sharper matrix (handles better in post for me ... YMMV).