@endotoxic

was you expecting a holographic game console?

do you even know what you are looking for?

have you ever played killzone on a ps3?

X86 CPU - 8 cores

Just note that it is cheap and slow AMD cores, slower than in A10 CPU that is common for very cheap notebooks.

Enhanced PC GPU - 2 teraflops

To be precise, it is same as old rebranded from previous year Radeon 7760, hence below any good graphics card.

8 GB RAM - GDDR5

They doubled RAM comparing to developers machines, but 8GB is still not much as it'll be used for all. Plus CPU and bus, most probably, will be not wide.

Local HDD

As far as I remember rumors, it is cheapest 160GB HDD. Placing HDD in modern console is bad idea.

New controller and stereo camera

Both made using new approach used for everything now - make things cheap.

To be short. Today you can get better PC for not much really. And later play much cheaper for games. Plus you can play any old game that you can get for $1 on sales, contrary to PS4 that still can't do it (they had vague talk about streaming, sadly it won't happen).

Yes, except for exclusives that make the whole thing worthwhile.

It is big problem with exclusives now, as architecture is same as PC, nothing can stop guys to make PC version to make more money :-)

Hmm..call me old. I still love the PS3 fat. It is one gadget that has refused to become obsolete. One gadget that has been worth money paid multiple times. Sad it did not get the attention it deserved at least initially and ended up a second to it peers.. I have Wii at home gathering dust and PS3 is still actively used as a BD player and gaming console.

If PS4 comes with 4K playback, this has the ability to be future proof budget 4K player. Allowing playing off the hard disk will mean it will not be as limited as PS3 was with BD. Throw in IP control, Apps ecosystem and stop crippling the system in the hope of selling accessories and software, it could still be a interesting.

As for PS3 and BD play. Good BD player is cheaper and more useful. I just do not know why you need one.

A decent BD player used to cost more than the PS3 itself and they got outdated even faster. Buying into PS3 meant I had almost updated version of BD player/average media player at all times while being an excellent gaming machine. Things have since changed, but for a gadget to hold onto its own for 6-7 years merits applause.

@GravitateMediaGroup i really think i have more idea than you think about gamin computer and high end hardware. Beeen a computer hardcore entusiast since 6 years old.

PS4 has become a high end chop up PC. There are no grate graphics, none than i havnt see on a pc before. I really hoped the new hardware be future proof, but the only shit i see "future" is the GPGPU "instructions" that is not really WOW

wow WAS the cell processor and what thet did try to achive. I didt work but thisPS4 hardware almost is like having a mini ITX board wit a good core i5 5500k and an ATI videocard.

i can almost build ps4 is i was given its Os linux bases system, damm even better PS4 with actual hardware i found on wallmart LOL

@ppcroft Your dream is new nintendo U then.

"enable iPhone, iPad, and Android based smartphones and tablets to become second screens."

That sounds a lot like Apple TV. I'm waiting for Apple to unleash the power of the tiny box. Release SDK and let developers make games and sell through iTunes. Sure XBox and PS are nice. But I'm skeptical about future of console games. Apple TV won't have kick ass graphics, but I just wanna play games on TV other than iPhone and iPad sometimes.

@subco In what way inaccurate?

@subco

The PS3 actually does support mouse and keyboard, but very few games actually allow it. Unreal Tournament (actually even the PS2 versions of UT and Half-Life supported M&KB), CS: GO and Dust 514 are the only ones I can think of. The PS4 will most likely be the third straight Sony console to support standard USB keyboards and mice, hopefully more developers will actually allow you to use them.

I'll probably still stick to PC as well, though.

THE FACT IS THIS

new ps4 is highly integrated x86 machine, and a GPU with a direct interconect to cpu on a ITX with propetary LSI running linux.

Its the lest inovative Playstation from the history of the brand, and by fact the lest inovative console in the history of gaming, damm they havnt developed shit. The ram, the cpu, the GPU, they only rebamped the controller, and make a case with propetary moderboard and modified linux. I bet a give a guy like apefos the challenge and i would be surpised by the results using simple parts.

For me this time they are selling Brand name not research. Anyone now can make a much powefull machine in an itx from factor with similar ok...more watts but same or better performance.

Funny, I was just talking about this with one of my students tonight, who buys all the latest greatest gadgets. I am onboard with VK, PC can do more for less. I own two consoles, an Original Atari, and a Dreamcast. I have played PS3 Gamecube, and Wii, and though the gamecube and Wii hold their own, the PS3 never gave me as much joy as the Dreamcast. I don't give a shit about graphics, just fun. Also I am proud to say I have never owned a BR player, and never missed it, because again there is nothing a PC can't do here without a bunch of plastic discs messing up my house (still have plenty of those for various things). All that being said, I am sure there will be some fanciness to be had with the new system, and some mehness.