This is veri interesting, was made with Moon and Angenieux 12-120mm C Mount .

@driftwood Moon trial 4 rocks!!! 24p H/L - The quality is great! And it runs even with 30mbs(8gb) ultra SanDisk! I tried even with all the auto stuff on and iso 1600 still didn't stop. ex tele worked well too. The image is actually quite sharp with the the panny 20mm at f1.7

@driftwood any update on a moon trial 5 release, or will it be considered "official" I'm thinking about doing a bmcc ProRes vs GH2 type of video but want to wait for whatever is considered the most official moon.

@pinger007

Point taken, but hard lights are well for wides, not for close ups in interiors - like what burnet said, it's too harsh for skintone and details.

it's not that hard to use 1/4 frost. i like harsh lighting for daylight interiors but tend to difuse those aswell!

Thanks for your report @Zaven13 Im attempting perfect 3 GOP 720p60 - painful but getting success at lower bitrates around the 72-77 mbps. By all means pm me your ini and lets take a look.

Cheers Nick @driftwood.

The spike on differential frames make sense because temporal redundancy is broken with sudden movement (and non linear on top of it) so it will take an extra encoding effort. Have you tried looking at frame info to see if this extra bitrate is texture or MVs?

Now about those Intra frames... is it fallback? I don't know! Does it ever recover later in the footage? If not, and if E-PSNR isn't fluctuating, I would place some money on lens softness! Especially if this is the 45-200mm. More so if you were using MF, as you could be sending the lens OOF if you zoom a lot (DOF can be decreasing wildly, and so does content contrast).

I’m very happy with the QP in Moon Trial 4. It would be great if you could leave it at the same value, Nick!

*** NEWS **** Cluster X Series: 'moon' trial 5 Released today with stability improvements to 720p modes and FSH/HBR modes - and a balance of the best of Trial 3 & Trial 4 on 1080p24 - Go check it out on page 1. :-) BTW 720p60 is now fast motion 3 GOP like 720p50. This is worth the upgrade.

@Mr_Moore You won't notice the change - its almost the same - promise.

@Diffusion33 Good attempt by your bro' - However, even in 1080p mode on YouTube you can tell the rendering from Videopad / conversion to Youtube is breaking up - somewhere something has ruined the original footage.

@driftwood yeah the footage looks baked, i'll try and get hold of the MTS and see about editing them myself and re-posting.

Cluster X Series: 'moon' trial 5 spanning tests

All tests pointing at a TV screen with plenty of moving footage using a Pany 35-100 lens! I suspect as usual that datarate plays a big part in spanning.

Test 1. 1080p24 H A unformatted sandisk 64gb 95mbps card with 40Gbs spare recorded at 1 hour and 22 mins and 13 secs and stopped on 'memory card full msg' - creating 8 x 4.29Gb files and 1 x 1.82Gb file before stopping - avg datarate of 56Mbps for the scene. Result: YES! Spans See clip53 in FCPX (which adds all the recorded clips together into one clip on import) test1 pic below

Test 2. HBR25p A freshly formatted sandisk 16Gb 30mbps card at 10 mins and 2 seconds at 54,5Mbps average datarate and stopped at 4.29Gb - Result: No Span! I think I have a idea to make this span - maybe next trial (note: 30p HBR does span)

Test 3. HBR25p A freshly formatted sandisk 64gb 95mbps card at 11 mins at 54Mpbs and stopped at 4Gb. Result: As test2, No Span! I think I have a idea to make this span - maybe next trial (note: 30p HBR does span)

Test 4. 720p50 A freshly formatted sandisk 64gb 95mbps card at over an hour and 5 4Gb files + before battery ran out and correctly saved file and shut down. Result: YES! Spans.

Test 5. HBR30p A freshly formatted sandisk 16Gb 30mbps card at 31 mins and 10 seconds at 2 x 4.29Gb files written. Result: YES! Spans to two files.

Test 6. 720p60 A freshly formatted sandisk 64gb 95mbps card at 10mins 48 secs to one 4.29Gb file at avg 50.5Mbps datarate. Result: No Span

@GravitateMediaGroup How do you achieve such flat image? Gh2 always gives me very contrasty footage... it´s because it was a cloudy day? Nice test... lots of detail and movement. Thanks!

@danielvy what picture style are you using? I use standard, most folks are still caught up on smooth & nature

@GravitateMediaGroup I use Cinema -2, -2, 0, 0, ill try standard... Also. Tomorrow ill be testing Moon V5 in daylight conditions. Ill be posting some video.