Personal View Feature Film Collaborative project

atticusd

Hey! Thanks for taking the time to read and edit the scene. I really like your approach. The tone hasn't drifted at all. It's just more polished and therefore easier to read.

I agree with you on the settings part. Right before production it will be the time to address that kind of stuff.

Right now what we need to do is make a list of people who's really committed to shoot this, see if that is enough to tell this particular story and then set a date for the first draft delivery.

Those of you who are really interested, please put your name and a brief description of your resources here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1roPV0wfZu9ebPyXTg25HtNzjgky0yyfPuVTmECdFd8k/edit

I know there’s an assets list already on the wiki, but that was months ago. Putting your name on the new Doc will mean that you’re still willing to do this. New people are more than welcome.

thepalalias

@atticusd Glad you like it. Let me know when you have the first draft ready and I will take the same approach.

I think the Google Doc is a great idea. Can you use the share button to make sure we can all edit it? At the moment it appears to be read only on my end. Then we can send the link out in a message to the project group, too.

atticusd

@thepalalias

Sorry man, I read your message on the phone and then forgot to answer it. The phone may be smart but its user is a dumbass. ;) Now, everyone with the link should be able to edit the doc.

atticusd

Stowaway Goodie of the Week: Lobby Card Concept V1

Vitaliy_Kiselev

I want just to repeat my suggestion to make something very small, say 60 seconds, with script and shooting at, say, 2 distant places. It'll inject some optimism, and also attract new people.

Project will die if it'll go so long on the script level only.

thepalalias

@Vitaliy_Kiselev Do you mean shooting one of the scenes ahead of the rest as a proof of concept?

atticusd

@Vitaliy_Kiselev @thepalalias

I can write a short movie/trailer based on the Stowaway concept and characters. If we can shoot it, we'll accomplish at least to things: We’ll prove that we can tell a story together and we’ll have something to attract more assets to the project while we keep the moral of the troops up.

It can be a sort of Mega-Goodie of the week. At this point I think it’s necessary to throw one of these Goodies every week to keep people interested: A weekly reminder that this is for real. Sometimes it can be something big like this short, others something smaller like a still from a possible location, a scene excerpt,...

In any case, I’m up for Vitaliy’s suggestion: Let’s get two or three crews interested in doing this short/trailer, someone that will edit it, someone to score it,... I’ll write something and show you next week. We can work on this while we continue walking towards the final goal (the feature). If you think about it, it doesn’t have to be a slow-down or anything. It can be just the opposite.

P.D.: By the way, those still interested please put your name and a brief description of your resources here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1roPV0wfZu9ebPyXTg25HtNzjgky0yyfPuVTmECdFd8k/edit

B3Guy

Let's do a trailer, good idea. Sorry about the doc . . . I put up my info for you.

atticusd

Hey guys!

How's life treating you these days? ;) I've been playing with a couple of concepts for the trailer. I don't have anything for you yet because I've been kind of busy these last couple of weeks. I promise to give you something to read in the next days.

With the resources that we have at the moment, a trailer seems more than feasible. Let's see.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

If you ask me, to revive it we need one boss, one small crew and short trailer. Next add second unit with same absolute boss.

thepalalias

@Vitaliy_Kiselev Fair enough.

@AttiusD Are the concepts intended more for international crews or U.S. one(s)? If they are intended for U.S. one(s), I'd be happy to start looking at the logistics of shooting it with you and see what we need to do to move it forward. If the trailer should be done by an international crew, I'd be happy to look back at the participants we've had to find someone to volunteer their time.

Also, I've been spending a few days experimenting with ways of depicting transitions in consciousness without using 3D graphics, etc. I wanted something that "feels" evocative and draws the person in rather than making them go "that's nice CGI" or "that's awful CGI" etc. I'll probably apply it to some of my own work when it's further along so that you guys can see what I am talking about and whether you would like it for the film or not.

atticusd

@Vitaliy_Kiselev The project would certainly benefit from having a boss. Problem is, how do we choose it? Any volunteers out there?

@thepalalias For the trailer, it would be nice to have at least two crews shooting different incarnations of Peter and Randall. In this way, the nature of the project would be reflected already in there: Different crews spread around the world, different actors to portray the protagonists and a story that takes advantage of all that. The concepts I’m playing with would work better with two different crews based in two different countries but if we have to stay in the U.S. for whatever reason it wouldn’t be a problem.

I’m also looking for ways of depicting the jumps. I’m in the same wagon as you but still haven’t found anything convincing yet. I’m sure we’ll manage to do it in an original and elegant way.

atticusd

Hey guys! I haven’t forgot about you. Things continue to be on the crazy side on my little corner of the world. So I still don’t have anything to share trailer wise. It’s a matter of days now, really. The two concepts I’m working on are pretty basic anyway:

1) A couple of scenes that won’t appear in the released movie but give a clear idea of the story. It’s a trailer but at the same time feels like a solid entity in itself.

2) Breaking the fourth wall. I won’t say more for now.

Happy shootings!

thepalalias

@atticusd Makes sense. Are you planning for the trailer to be scenes that precede the film, follow the end of the film or exist within the timeline of the film but "off-camera" as far as the main script?

atticusd

@thepalalias Something within the timeline or perhaps a bit earlier.

thepalalias

@atticusd My thought is that something set a little earlier will have more value to the audience. It will make seeing the trailer more like something they want to do, something that gives them an advantage in understanding the sotry over someone that has not. I mean, I am not saying we should actually require that people see the trailer or leave things out of the main movie, but making it more like a prologue or self-contained mini-story could be a lot more fun for the viewer than throwing in "deleted scenes" (to use a clumsy analogy).

My thought was that the trailer could (in the direction if not in the writing) really sell the experience of being the character, so that the audience comes into the movie to find the story that will come through that. So the trailer doesn`t have to have a ton of plot and exposition, it just has to be very elegant.

Well, those are my two cents. But you`ll forgive me if I sometimes find it difficult to take my marketing hat off since so much of the consulting I do involves at least some amount of that. :)

Looking forward to what you come up with!

TrackZillas

Hey guy's I'm in the NYC area I'm ready to help..

thepalalias

@Trackzillas Great! Please add your information to the Google document that AtticusD linked to above. Basically we just need your skills, connections and availability, but as you can see most of us have been exeedingly general.

@AtticusD Looks like you have an NYC option for the trailer.

There is a chance I may be spending some time in Atlanta and India soon. Let me know if we need exteriors from either location (in case I have free time).

atticusd

@thepalalias We’re on the same page, man. Something of a companion piece is not only a lot more fun to do but as you said it’s far more rewarding to the audience. I’m working in that direction. Let’s see if I succeed. And by the way, your marketing hat is a real handy thing to have, so please don’t apologize.

I wouldn’t mind having Indian incarnations of Peter and Randall in the trailer but I don’t think we have access to local talent there, am I wrong?

@TrackZillas Wellcome aboard! That’s great! Please do as Per said and list yourself in the doc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1roPV0wfZu9ebPyXTg25HtNzjgky0yyfPuVTmECdFd8k/edit)

RRRR

Hey Guys! Glad to see you are active! Not sure what your timetables are at the present but let me know if you need anything from northern sweden over june / july - when I hopefully will have a little more time at my hands. Right now it's crazy, part time stay home dad, part time (150%) working with commercial projects.. There are not enough hours in the day.

thepalalias

@rrrr That`s great. :) Have you added your info. to the collaboration document yet?

@atticusd In case you are unfamiliar with the geography, northern Sweden is thought of by us southern Swedes as being more densely forested but with a lower population density. Being far north, the variation in the length of the daylight is huge over the course of the year and the summer has days so long that @rrrr would pretty much only be able to film daytime footage. Also remember that the color and angle of the light has more in common with say (for instance) the northwest than California, making for somewhat less saturated oranges and reds during shooting but beautiful blues and greens.

So not sure if you had any Swedish scenes in mind, but those are some considerations to keep in mind for the trailer. There are some great summer exteriors there. Cheers!

RRRR

@thepalalias will do, later tonight! One interesting thing (which is rarely possible dramatic shooting conditions anywhere) is the twilight (during sundown). Also available (within reach) is all kinds of spectactular scenery, from deep and dense forests of different kinds (variations of pine mostly) to forestless mountains, to dramatic altitude variations (if venturing into norway), in combinations with streams, lakes, sea e.t.c.

atticusd

@thepalalias @rrrr And the cool locations keep coming up... Yummy!!! I've been browsing through some photos from northern Sweden and some of them remind me a lot of Asturias in the north of Spain. Beautiful stuff! I will look for more stills and keep them in mind while I write. It's certainly inspiring.