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Canon Cinema EOS C300 topic
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Cinema EOS C300 and the EOS C300 PL announcment.

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    •Single 8.3 megapixel 2160×3840 Super-35 CMOS sensor (4K resolution) with Digic DV III processor
    •Canon XF codec (50Mbps 4:2:2 1080p30 MPEG2 MXF) records to two Compact Flash card slots
    •Canon Log gamma, SDI, compact body, Custom Presets and menus similar to Canon XF series
    •Exposure and focus control are completely manual — there is no AE or AF on either camera
    •Sold as a system, incl. LCD monitor / XLR audio unit, side grip, top handle, batt. & charger
    •Availability: Jan. 2012; Price: appx. $16,000 USD (for C300)

    Canon claims the camera resolves 1,000 TV lines

    Links:

    http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/c300_for_cinematographers.shtml?categoryId=22
    http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2011/understand_log_gamma.shtml?categoryId=22
    http://www.thec47.com/gearbox/c300-day.html

    Available at:

    * http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/839220-REG/Canon_5779B002_C300_Cinema_EOS_Camcorder.html
    * http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/839221-REG/Canon_5819B002_EOS_C300_PL_Cinema.html


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    Wi-Fi remote control from tablet:

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    Lenses:

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  • B3GuyB3Guy
    "Cinema EOS" + "best optical equipment" = new lenses?
  • skiandbikeskiandbike
    A lot smaller than I imagined in the handheld configuration.
  • fatpigfatpig
    other live blog can be found here:
    http://blog.planet5d.com/liveblog/
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    watching both. new lenses, new c300 camera.
  • driftwooddriftwood
    looks interesting...
  • fatpigfatpig
    me too. gosh i hope its affordable. or it will get smaller brother , like gh2 and af101
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    RED just might be peeing their pants right now.

    arrgh, why are they not live streaming this event?! And why no specs yet?
  • driftwooddriftwood
    5d mkIII in a new box, quad digics? INTRA (i'll bet) and AVC 2
  • fatpigfatpig
    if it has shot a cinema movie... like "max is back" - its gotta be more than 1080p, right? Im waiting for the dynamic range to be announced.. its really exciting
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    yup. the "no compression issues" probably means intra . . . but could mean some form of RAW if we're extremely lucky.
  • driftwooddriftwood
    looks quite noisy!
  • simensitosimensito
    http://nofilmschool.com/2011/11/canon-cinema-eos/

    Aiming at the F3 I guess?
  • GOODEMPIREGOODEMPIRE
    Noisy, I agree. I wonder if these pictures really represent actual footage.
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    ru guys there?
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    •Single 8.3 megapixel 2160×3840 Super-35 CMOS sensor (4K resolution) with Digic DV III processor
    •Canon XF codec (50Mbps 4:2:2 1080p30 MPEG2 MXF) records to two Compact Flash card slots
    •Canon Log gamma, SDI, compact body, Custom Presets and menus similar to Canon XF series
    •Exposure and focus control are completely manual — there is no AE or AF on either camera
    •Sold as a system, incl. LCD monitor / XLR audio unit, side grip, top handle, batt. & charger
    •Availability: Jan. 2012; Price: appx. $16,000 USD (for C300)

    The 8.3 megapixel Super-35 sensor in the C300 is a new CMOS design by Canon. It is not borrowed or re-engineered from the still photography side of the company; instead it has been created “from the ground up” and dedicated specifically to digital cinema applications. The sensor has a resolution of 2,160 pixels tall by 3,840 pixels wide, which qualifies as native 4K. Canon claims that rolling shutter skew is greatly reduced in this sensor relative to current HD-DSLR camera models. Also, each frame can be scanned by the Digic DV III processor more quickly compared to an HD-DSLR, such as the 21 megapixel CMOS sensor in the Canon EOS 5D Mk. II, which has 2.5 times as many pixels as the C300.

    Canon says that their Digic DV III processor reads this new sensor differently; it does not use the line-skipping method found in high-res HD-DSLR sensors. Instead, every four pixels (two green, one red, and one blue) are sampled for each final output pixel. In other words, color is assembled the same way as a traditional three-chip sensor block… two megapixels of red, two megapixels of blue and four megapixels of green (twice as much green as red or blue, since green carries the luminance info). Each primary color sampling off of the sensor is native 1920×1080, each color value alone is equal to the final output resolution. Canon claims that the processed signal has 1,000 lines of TV resolution, and the moire, diagonal line stair-stepping and other artifacts are greatly reduced in this chip compared to HD-DSLR cameras.



    Via: http://www.dvinfo.net/article/acquisition/canon-eos/canon-usa-announces-cinema-eos-c300-and-eos-c300-pl-cameras.html
  • GOODEMPIREGOODEMPIRE
    16K?????
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    yea . . . not including glass?
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Focus and exposure are completely manual; there is no AF or AE mode on the C300 or C300 PL. Nor are there any semi-automatic program modes such Aperture Priority (Av) or Shutter Priority (Tv), commonly found on all Canon camcorders and photo cameras.

    The person or company owning a stable of Canon EF lenses will have to make a decision based on the type of work that they’re doing: will they need autofocus or not? If not, the C300 camera will suffice. But anyone wanting to use autofocus on a Canon EF or EF-S lens — which is a primary feature of the EF line — will be better served by choosing a RED Digital Cinema DSMC camera equipped with RED’s own DSMC Titanium Canon EOS mount, which fully supports autofocus and other EF lens features.

    Never do things half way :-)
  • GOODEMPIREGOODEMPIRE
    I mean.... this is an ARRI class camera... it tells a lot about the direction for whole industry. How can they ask 2500 for a full frame DSLR since now?
  • fatpigfatpig
    16k sounds great! still waiting for the DR!
  • B3GuyB3Guy
    yup. sounds like if it has shortcomings anywhere, its in low lit scenes.
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Codecs:

    It is a 50Mbps 4:2:2 MPEG2 codec utilizing the widely supported .MXF wrapper, writing 1080p30 and 720p60 video to Compact Flash at a choice of either 50Mbps or 35Mbps. 1440×1080 HDV is also an option at 25Mbps for even longer recording times per CF card.
    The C300′s menu system interface is practically identical in fuction and appearance to the one used in all of the other Canon XF series camcorders, and the Custom Preset menu is a close twin as well

  • B3GuyB3Guy
    hang, on . . . it has a 4K sensor, but records 1080p?
  • GOODEMPIREGOODEMPIRE
    someone just has to hack it:)
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Yes, 1080p30 max, 720p has variable frame rates.

    I think real limitation is cheap camcorder LSI inside.
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