It makes more sense to be 4k 10bit 420, because ultra hd bluray is like that, and the new prosumer cameras must follow ultra hd bluray. 422 is only for high end expensive cameras for heavy post production cine/broadcast market.

5k could be useful for reframing and stabilization and final output to 4k.

@joethepro, TrackZillas & apefos: you might be right but on the other hand, Blackmagic put 10 bit 422 in the $1000 Pocket regardless of their higher end cameras & perhaps it has been their top selling camera? The Pocket is not a high/end expensive camera yet I often use it instead of my GH4 because of 10 bit ProRes 422.

OK right about Pocket but it seems as the GH line has evolved, yes it serves both photographers but now perhaps video/film makers even more. I like many bought the GH4 mainly for motion picture quality although I am also happy for it's still modes. As I learn more and am able to discern differences in digital film quality and how it grades, I grow to desire a better codec than 8 bit 420 for 4K & V-Log which is why I never really consider the Sony A7s/ll as an upgrade except for low light. Personally I'll keep my GH4 as a great hybrid but as for upgrading to a film camera that really makes a difference I'll probably end up having to save my dollars a lot longer for perhaps the URSA mini 4.6 K. But really I would rather spend $3000 less for a GH5 (not to mention I already have lenses) if it has a much improved codec that can handle V-Log well without all that nasty banding etc. Meanwhile the GH4 and BMPCC are just fine.

OK, thanks, I get it and depending on the reality of it all, how it turns out, we all know what we want and we'll eventually find out what we're offered and then we'll determine our next camera purchase...I only weigh in here hoping that Panasonic monitors the thread and makes upgrades in the GH5 to make a real difference unlike say the GH3 did...which I have also but we all know the Hacked GH2 beats the pants off it when it comes to video..I hardly ever use that GH3, it is my D cam, used only for multi cam shoots as camera #4.

@joethepro The GH5's real competition isn't a "pro" cinema camera, it's the A7S II. Panny will never match Sony's sensor size so they have to exceed it in other specs... higher frame rates, more resolution, better color space, etc. Inexpensive 10 bit monitors and TVs are now in cheap abundance, so are cheap/fast SD cards and more efficient recording codecs. It makes no sense to continue producing 8 bit cameras unless you're a company on a mission to please camera sceptics and cynics - but we'll see soon enough.

@Tron @caveport I understand where the market is right now and what the industry is capable of, and especially what filmmakers want. But these companies are just not going to give us this stuff in these small inexpensive packages when thats exactly what they offer in their top of the line stuff. I just cant see it happening yet. I would LOVE it, but knowing how they operate, its a "fat chance" to me. I will be pleasantly surprised if we see this in the next gen cameras.

Too late, I couldn't wait anymore and am in the process of selling all my GH4 bodies and M43 glass. I was forced to as I needed something that can deal with extreme low light, this is one and only reason as I loved everything else about the GH4.

I'm trying to be more flexible in the future so I've moved to the A7S II and went back to EF mount glass. An expensive lesson as I went from EF to M43 and back to EF.

In the distant future I'm looking something in the FS7 price range so I would be interested to see if Panasonic will have something between the GH5/DV200 and the Varicam systems. I'm still looking forward to seeing the GH5.

If Panasonic can still manage GH5 FW details, then please:

-make the camera show exposure numbers during video recording

-make all important video menu items possible to assign to FN

-give us auto iso in M with EV adjust

-make AF lock work like it should: on-off-on-off etc.

-play button to right side (at least with FN option)

Panasonic have a big shoes to fill here with the next GH camera. Well they can just make many necessary upgrades on the GH4 many of which have already being well articulated in this thread. Add good clean low light to at least ISO 6400 or better and in body image stabilization and I will be happy. I didn't buy the GH4 but I rented it a few times and use and their next HG camera will determine if I sell all my Panasonic related gears or stay.

It is CAR sensors, one with unspecified date (most probably never) and another approximately 2020.

You would think with the announcement of Sony a6300 that they would speed up the announcement of a new GH cam

Not a miracle, just better bitrates, a flip screen, better battery life, better ergonomics, way less rolling shutter, and maybe h265 and 4K60.

It would be nice if Panasonic integrated in the new GHx a real video stabilization as SteadyXP

Let's do without link to kickstarter.

Almost every Panasonic body (and many lenses) already have hardware to record orientation changes, same as this box that is extremely cheap inside. And it is not, huh, real stabilization. Real stabilization are steadicams or gimbals, or OIS or anything like it :-)