Tagged with m43 - Personal View Talks https://personal-view.com/talks/discussions/tagged/m43/p1/feed.rss Sun, 24 Nov 24 07:08:23 +0000 Tagged with m43 - Personal View Talks en-CA 40-150mm F2.8 PRO ED Olympus lens https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8060/40-150mm-f2.8-pro-ed-olympus-lens Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:00:07 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8060@/talks/discussions image

Specs

  • Min focus distance - 70cm
  • Diaphragm blades - 9
  • 16 elements in 10 groups
  • 1 aspherical ED lens, 2 aspherical lenses, 1 Super-ED lens, 3 ED lenses and 1 HD lens
  • Filter - 72mm
  • Size - 79.4 x 160 mm
  • Weight - 750 grams

Available at:


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Hands-on and previews

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Macro lenses for m43, old ones https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1665/macro-lenses-for-m43-old-ones Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:21:13 +0000 feha 1665@/talks/discussions Searching for alternative, old macro lenses, any experience in macro video filming ... ? ]]> Panasonic GM1 official topic https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8254/panasonic-gm1-official-topic Fri, 27 Sep 2013 04:28:22 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8254@/talks/discussions image

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Ultra compact m43 camera.

Official specs:

  • 16Mp CMOS sensor
  • 1/16000 minimum shutter speed
  • Very small
  • Light metal body
  • Wi-Fi
  • 3.0", 1036K dot touch screen
  • 1080i60/p30 (sic!)
  • 1080/24p 24Mbit
  • Built-in pop-up flash
  • Focus peaking
  • PIP magnification for manual focus
  • silent mode
  • 204 g
  • 99mm x 55mm x 30 mm

Previews and samples


Available at:

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Most recommended zoom lenses for m43, including not native https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2896/most-recommended-zoom-lenses-for-m43-including-not-native Mon, 16 Apr 2012 17:12:08 +0000 Donnie88 2896@/talks/discussions I'm looking to buy a Zoom lens for my Panasonic GH2 - that covers wide and medium focal lengths.

Which one do you guys recommend the most?

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Old wide angle lenses (24mm, 28mm) on m43 ? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1664/old-wide-angle-lenses-24mm-28mm-on-m43- Wed, 07 Dec 2011 07:17:17 +0000 lenuisible 1664@/talks/discussions
I read that wider than 35mm RF (Leica) lenses doesn't perform well on m43 (for some optical reasons), does anyone have a wide reflex lens that works well ? I'm looking for a cheaper alternative to the Nokton for a friend, and was wondering if a canon fd 24mm 1.4 would be a good purchase for around 400€.]]>
25mm F1.4 II Panasonic Leica DG, 2019 version https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/22482/25mm-f1.4-ii-panasonic-leica-dg-2019-version Tue, 27 Aug 2019 14:39:53 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 22482@/talks/discussions image

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12-32mm Panasonic m43 lens, aka little gem https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8466/12-32mm-panasonic-m43-lens-aka-little-gem Thu, 17 Oct 2013 09:07:42 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8466@/talks/discussions image

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Specifications

  • 8 elements in 7 groups (3 aspherical lenses, 1ED lens)
  • MEGA O.I.S.)
  • 7 diaphragm blades / Circular aperture diaphragm
  • Minimum Aperture - F22
  • Closest Focusing Distance - 0.2m
  • Filter Size - φ37mm
  • Overall Length - 24mm
  • Weight - 70 g

Useful links:

http://panasonic.net/avc/lumix/systemcamera/gms/lens/g_vario_12_32.html

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Olympus E-PL9 Camera topic https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/18445/olympus-e-pl9-camera-topic Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:31:45 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 18445@/talks/discussions image

Specs

  • 16.05mp m43 CMOS sensor
  • 3 IBIS
  • 121 AF points
  • 4K 25/30fps video
  • 4K photo mode
  • Serial shooting at up to 8.6fps
  • New stupid art filter called “instant film”
  • Improved touch interface
  • Sweep Panorama mode
  • Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
  • Built-in flash
  • 117 × 68 × 39 mm size
  • 380 g
  • Japan prices - body 73,440 yen, kit 89,640 yen, double lens kit -105,840 yen
  • oriented on children and spouses of businessmen
  • Available at

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fly-by-wire focus ring broken on Lumix G 12-35 f2.8 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/20638/fly-by-wire-focus-ring-broken-on-lumix-g-12-35-f2.8 Tue, 09 Oct 2018 10:17:56 +0000 jmc 20638@/talks/discussions Does anyone know how to repair a faulty focus ring on panny m43 lenses?

I have a Lumix G 12-35mm f.28 mk1 with an unresponsive focus wheel. The focus itself works fine when operating through the camera - pressing the shutter, c-af in video etc - but the focus wheel on the lens itself has come loose from (what I assume is) the sensor underneath. If I hold it firmly and turn it will engage every now and again but for the most part it doesn't respond at all.

Has anyone had this happen/know how to fix these focus rings?

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C-mount to m43 adapters (2) https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2124/c-mount-to-m43-adapters-2 Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:25:08 +0000 Alex 2124@/talks/discussions ... what are your experiences with c-mount adapters? How do you adjust your c-mount lenses to have proper focus to infinity? I thought I just have to buy a precisely machined adapter and all those lenses will fit just how they should. Now I own about 5 different c-mount adapters (latest is the METABONES adapter) and non of them seam to match the required flange back. Do you have to loosen all those tiny screws on the lens and adjust it to your camera/adapter??

good info I googled:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/c-mount_/discuss/72157625124961615/

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Kowa m43 cine lenses lineup https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8767/kowa-m43-cine-lenses-lineup- Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:22:52 +0000 astraban 8767@/talks/discussions image

Some good news for the format (including an 8,5 mm f/2.8)

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35-100mm m43 small lens https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/8465/35-100mm-m43-small-lens Thu, 17 Oct 2013 08:20:40 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 8465@/talks/discussions image

Specs

  • Stabilizer - MEGA O.I.S
  • 7 bladed aperture
  • 12 lenses in 9 groups
  • 2 ED lenses, one aspheric
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Olympus E-M10 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/9459/olympus-e-m10 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:15:57 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 9459@/talks/discussions image

Specs:

  • 16.05mp CMOS sensor
  • 3.0" LCD. 1.04 million dots. Tiltable. Capacitive touch.
  • ISO Sensitivity - ISO200-25600
  • Shutter - from 60 seconds to 1/4000 sec
  • Up to 8 frames per second
  • 1.44 Million dots EVF
  • 1080p30, 24mbit/sec MOV, H.264 video
  • BLS-5 battery
  • 82.3mm x 45.9mm x 119mm
  • 350g (body only)
  • Color is either black or silver
  • $699 initial retail price

Available at:

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Mitakon Speedmaster 25mm f/0.95 vs SLR Magic 25mm T0.95 Hyperprime Cine III for micro four thirds? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/18284/mitakon-speedmaster-25mm-f0.95-vs-slr-magic-25mm-t0.95-hyperprime-cine-iii-for-micro-four-thirds Mon, 20 Nov 2017 21:36:34 +0000 videoallstars 18284@/talks/discussions I film bands in poorly lit bars, clubs and festivals and would like a 50mm equivalent. Which one should I get? What's the difference between the two lenses besides weight? How do they match up performance-wise? How accurate are those F and T values? I have a GH2. I can't afford the Voigtlander

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FS: JVC GY-LS300 4K Super 35mm Cinema Camera - $1500.00 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/17402/fs-jvc-gy-ls300-4k-super-35mm-cinema-camera-1500.00 Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:22:46 +0000 saltherring 17402@/talks/discussions I'm selling my JVC GY-LS300 camera which I've owned for the past year-and-a-half. It's a 4K/Super 35mm camera that produces wonderful images. For the price, the feature set that you get with this camera is unrivaled. I'm asking $1500.00 for it and am throwing in an extra battery and charger.

Here's some other specs:

  • Updated to the latest firmware which shoots 4K 4:2:2 internally at 150Mbps (many other bit rates + resolutions too)

  • MFT lens mount with Super 35mm sensor

  • Variable Scan Mapping technology supports many other lens mounts without any quality loss (with adapters): PL, EF, etc.

  • 120fps HD recording for smooth slow motion

  • Records to SDXC memory cards (dual slots)

  • Built in ND filters

  • Two XLR inputs

  • Can livestream 1080p video via Wifi or 4G LTE

I own a set of MFT lenses that I have used with this camera but have also used Canon EF mount lenses with a Metabones Speedbooster adapter. It works really well and the lens/adapter communicates with the camera automatically - no fussing or menu changing needed.

I should note that this camera works perfectly and has no physical blemishes. I recently decided to purchase a Panasonic GH5 and that's the only reason I'm getting rid of this. The work I'm doing, I need a smaller footprint so am going back to DSLR shooting for the moment.

For what it's worth, I'm in the Bay Area of California but willing to ship this anywhere in North America.

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Tilt and tilt-shift adapters https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/878/tilt-and-tilt-shift-adapters Wed, 07 Sep 2011 13:15:50 +0000 Vitaliy_Kiselev 878@/talks/discussions
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Price: $70 shipped

http://www.ebay.com/sch/jinfinance/m.html?_nkw=tilt&_sacat=0&_sop=10&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313]]>
Very long zoom lenses on m43 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1132/very-long-zoom-lenses-on-m43 Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:19:16 +0000 chrimsbroome 1132@/talks/discussions
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Mitakon Lens Turbo Adapter to Canon and M42 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/16020/mitakon-lens-turbo-adapter-to-canon-and-m42 Wed, 09 Nov 2016 13:26:32 +0000 Irfan 16020@/talks/discussions Im looking to order Mitakon Lens Turbo Mk II adapter. I have some old M42 and Canon lens I want to use. Can I use them all on one adapter with maybe additional ring mount (Example: Mitakon Adapter to Canon > M42 adapter with M42 lens). Or I need to order two Mitakon adapters ?

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Discussion on lenses and perception across camera systems. https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/6453/discussion-on-lenses-and-perception-across-camera-systems. Wed, 20 Mar 2013 18:05:22 +0000 RRRR 6453@/talks/discussions This is not a thread to debate or explain physics. This is a thread which hopefully can become a resource for lens selection for so called crop sensors.

The other day I was involved in a discussion about "85mm" lenses, and the differences between the characteristics of a certain FOV lens on "full frame", compared to how it looks on a crop sensor. A "native" lens can be designed to perform just like it´s other sized sibling, but when one is into vintage lenses / lenses that can be used on multiple systems it gets far more complicated! Lately I´ve been thinking a lot about lenses that work across different camera systems and the different qualities that are exhibited, depending on the size of the sensor. I´m not thinking so much about the obvious depth of field related changes as to how the overall feel of the image and subtle optical imperfections alter the image with the same lens used on different systems. I´d like to think of aps-c or s35 as base sensor / imager size over "full frame", at least for us who have video as the main area of camera usage, however, many lenses where designed for "full frame" and although the differences on s35 and aps-c can be rather small, I find the differences increase exponentially the smaller imager you put it on.

Hence I have come to search for vintage full frame lenses which will exhibit appealing qualities on a gh2 or a blackmagic design cinema camera. Now, what is appealing to me might not be appealing to you, but I will try to define my own criteria and I hope you can supply yours and add to this thread.

I have been building two main sets of vintage still lenses after ditching my canon fd´s (they were not getting the use to justify having them). For one, I have been buying c/y zeiss optics and I have been adding m42 mount lenses as I have come across them or found some interesting aspect which could fit in with the rest. The c/y´s will no doubt be a mainstay in my arsenale for years, however the ultimate reason why I pulled the trigger on the full set was the advent of the metabones speedbooster – I much prefer how they look on a slightly bigger sensor over a smaller one and I have high hopes for the speedbooster. The reasons for the preferred vicinity to "native sensor size" are:

  1. less pronounced CA. I have become a bit allergic to aberrations of late.
  2. nicer transition to OOF areas, wide open or stopped down.
  3. More obvious contrast/microcontrast "sweet spot". (I think this is down to a slightly larger FOV)
  4. Usability wide open, much in line with the criteria above. A lens which looks sharp in the center on full frame or aps-c might just look soft on a smaller sensor because there´s less contrast between edge and center.

With the m42´s it´s different. I like very much how they look on the gh2 AND f.i. the fs700 or BMD, so I find them extremely useful for video, across systems. So what is it I´ve been looking for?

  1. Low(ish) contrast
  2. Pleasing (sort of neutral) OOF and bokeh, also when stopped down.
  3. good price / performance ratio.
  4. great CA control
  5. reasonable color match
  6. good distortion control / flat focal field

I have mainly been searching through lens databases (on possible candidates), comparing sample images.

Now, this set consists today of the following lenses:

20mm flektogon f2.8 29mm meyer optik, pentacon f2.8 37mm Mir-1b f2.8 50mm Pancolar f1.8 58mm Helios f2 135mm meyer optik orestor f2.8 200mm meyer optik orestegor f4

I´m still looking to add a few but for the ones I have / I´ve had I can say the following:

20mm flektogon - I prefer the f4, as it´s tack sharp wide open. (f2.8 needs to be stopped down to 4-5.6) 29mm Meyer optik is sharper / has less blooming (coma) than the pentacon wide open.. maybe half a stop brighter as well - otherwise they are remarkably similar - both useful wide open. Bokeh can be both expressive and sort of neutral depending on where you place the focal field / subject and f-stop. 37mm Mir is a great "normal" lens on the gh2. Too slow? No. Just right. I want to add a macro ring to help out close focusing. Great value for money and beautiful OOF transitions thanks to the 10 blade aperture. 50mm pancolar - a bit too low in contrast to fit the others well. Not a fan of it´s bokeh. 58mm helios f2 - rock´n roll short tele on the gh2. Wonderful out of focus rendition and also nice transitions thanks to the round aperture. 135mm meyer optik - beautiful and tack sharp tele. Notoriously nice OOF / Bokeh rendition. Low in contrast and needs a push in post to match most of the other lenses. 200mm meyer ... - used it very sparingly so far. Not super sharp wide open. Not a preferred lens on gh2 sensor.

In general, I´ve had some issues with mechanics in cold conditions (needed to clean out and lubricate some helicoids) but they have been put to very good use already. I traded away a 35mm flektogon which I felt was a tad harsh in contrast in comparison to the others anyway (great lens tho). Another thing which is down to physics - the wider the lens, the more restless / harsher the bokeh is. The performance of a certain FOV does not quite match what you´d get on a larger sensor but this will only be a problem in case you are looking for really wide lenses in which case you are better off with native lenses anyway. The difference is mainly where you place the camera. (between different sensor sizes).

Note: I believe it´s difficult to switch lenses with acute focal fields between different sized imagers and not get very differing results.. For my m42 set I´d normally not use all for one production but choose a few depending on priority, like f.i. one or two wides, one or two tele´s to contain the slight differences in coatings, color e.t.c. However, they match remarkably well despite transgressing manufacturers and brands. I´d guess it´s because they are in the vicinity of one lineage of optics manufacturing.

Samples to follow.

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FS: Panasonic GH4 - Complete in box w/extras https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/15089/fs-panasonic-gh4-complete-in-box-wextras- Wed, 18 May 2016 13:04:59 +0000 thebmillz 15089@/talks/discussions Hello,

Selling a GH4 - gently used and clean, complete in original box with all accessories (shoulder strap still sealed and never used). Basically if you get in the box when you buy it new, it's in here too. The shutter count is 1570.

Throwing in over $100 worth of extras:

Official Panasonic Brand Extra Battery (DMW-BLF19) Panasonic DMW-RSL1 Remote Shutter Release Remote LCD Lens Hood (for shooting in sunny conditions)

$1,200 for everything plus $20 for Insured, Tracked, Shipping. USA only (sorry). Payment via paypal. I've sold electronics online since 1998. Check my eBay name: auctionssince1998 for feedback. Local pickup available in Los Angeles.

ALSO: I have the following other things for sale that I'll post properly throughout the week:

New B+W 52mm MRC 103M Pro .9 ND Filter and Step up rings - $60 - Free Shipping

Think Tank Photo Retrospective 7 Shoulder Bag (Pinestone) - $115 + $5 Shipping

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Which CCTV lens for wide angle fisheye use ? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/7609/which-cctv-lens-for-wide-angle-fisheye-use- Fri, 26 Jul 2013 05:31:26 +0000 TruHype 7609@/talks/discussions Hello everyone,

I've recently started to get interested in C mount (CCTV) lens, for they are fast, wide, and cheap. So I wondered, is there any CCTV lens that I could use as a Fisheye (and get the same effect as the Panasonic 8mm f3.5, but faster) ? Here's a few lens I've found looking on the internet :

  • Rainbow 3.5mm 1.6

  • Tamron 4-12mm 1.2

  • Pentax 6mm 1.2 (+ wide conversion lens x0.45)

Wanted effect :

The GH2 exact m4/3 sensor crop is x1.86.

So I would like to get the same widness as the Panasonic 8mm or any 8mm Fisheye (Samyang, Peleng, Rokinon...) :

Panasonic 8mm : 8 x 1.86 = 14.88mm equivalent (no need for ETC mode)

Rainbow 3.5mm : 3.5 x 1.86 = 6.51 -> 6.51 x 2 = 13mm equivalent

Pentax 6mm : 6 x 1.86 = 11.16 -> 11.6 x 2 = 23.2mm equivalent -> 23.2 x 0.45 = 10.44mm equivalent

x 1.86 : GH2 Sensor Crop

x 2 : ETC tele conversion mode crop (to cover vignetting)

x 0.45 : Wide convversion lens

Does that mean we could use any CCTV c mount lens instead of the Panasonic lens to get the wide fisheye effect ?

A few videos :

Lenses :

C mount lens (1/2") work well on the GH2, but I heard that the CS mount lens (1/3") would still have really heavy vignetting because even with the ETC mode it would not cover entirely the GH2 sensor. Is that true ?

Interesting CS mount lens, but 1/3 inch : http://www.ebay.fr/itm/TAMRON-Manual-Iris-CCTV-Lens-3-0-8mm-1-1-0-ASPHERICAL-C-Mount-3-Mega-Pixel-/261248954560?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item3cd3a6b0c0

I would use the fisheye to film Skateboarding.

Thank you.

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FS Bolex Moller anamorphot 8/19/1.5 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12344/fs-bolex-moller-anamorphot-8191.5 Sun, 08 Feb 2015 16:52:04 +0000 tigerbengal2009 12344@/talks/discussions selling my anamorphic adapter, in excellent condition....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bolex-Moller-Anamorphot-Anamorphic-8-19-1-5-with-collar-/191506829882?

please feel free to ask any questions

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For sale: Voigtländer Nokton 25 mm f0.95 https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13743/for-sale-voigtlaender-nokton-25-mm-f0.95 Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:29:01 +0000 Volker 13743@/talks/discussions On offer:

  • Voigtländer Nokton 25 mm f0.95, incl. all accessories (lens hood, caps, and manual) in original box

Very popular and high quality full manual standard lens - one of the best for the Micro Four Thirds system, great in low light and with distinct character.
This one comes in excellent condition (both optically and in general), as it was taken good care of at all times.

Price: €690 incl. shipping (from EU)

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FS: Fujinon 25mm f1.4 CF25B c-mount modified for infinity focus for m4/3 ( m43 ) mount. https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13730/fs-fujinon-25mm-f1.4-cf25b-c-mount-modified-for-infinity-focus-for-m43-m43-mount. Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:47:18 +0000 Cobaltum 13730@/talks/discussions For sale a beautiful Fujinon 25mm f1.4 CF25B c-mount modified for infinity focus for m4/3 mount.

Very good to excellent condition, has only some cosmetic imperfections on the outer lens body, lenses are clean without scratches or other imperfections, focus and aperture rings are fluid. Comes with a front lens cap, a quality c-mount to m4/3 adapter and 40.5mm to 58mm filter step-up ring

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Looking for a cheap m4/3 low light Lens with autofocus https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/13523/looking-for-a-cheap-m43-low-light-lens-with-autofocus Mon, 10 Aug 2015 11:25:10 +0000 felixgarbe 13523@/talks/discussions Hello, i want to buy another Lens for low light conditions for my Lumix GF3. Currently i have the standard "Panasonic 14 - 42 mm / F 3,5 - 5,6 " I know there is the "Panasonic 20 mm / F 1,7 Pancake" but its quite expensive (~250€ on ebay) , so i wonder if there is any cheaper alternative? I think it can also be another connector (with m4/3 adapter) as long as the autofocus works. Thank you!

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FS: Metabones Nikon to M43 Speedbooster Adaptor https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12975/fs-metabones-nikon-to-m43-speedbooster-adaptor Tue, 12 May 2015 14:05:53 +0000 kingmixer 12975@/talks/discussions Metabones Speedbooster for using Nikon mount lenses on any Micro Four Thirds mount camera. Functions perfectly and no defects, there is only some wear on the paint on the bottom side. $300 shipped anywhere in the US.

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EOS to m43 adapters topic https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/5754/-eos-to-m43-adapters-topic Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:34:45 +0000 silvertonesx24 5754@/talks/discussions I've seen a few threads concerning different aperture adjustment EOS adapters. I was just wondering if anyone had any recommendations for a non-aperture adjustment EOS to m43 adapter (don't need it) that fits solidly with no wiggle. I have the Fotsay one which is a $20 Amazon one and I really hate how the EOS lens wiggles on the adapter. Can any recommend one that is nice and solid with no wiggle?

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[FS] panasonic G6 body https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12464/fs-panasonic-g6-body Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:03:10 +0000 Adam_Mercier 12464@/talks/discussions Selling my panasonic G6 body in perfect working order, 250€ shipped to Europe. Clean screen with no scratches, clean body too with few small and not very visible marks. Kit box, battery and all accesories. I'm keeping the kit lens. Adam

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GH4 + cine mini-primes: good Matte Box and Follow Focus options? https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/11997/gh4-cine-mini-primes-good-matte-box-and-follow-focus-options Sat, 20 Dec 2014 11:50:14 +0000 lseerveld 11997@/talks/discussions I'm looking forward to receiving the new Veydra set when they ship. Up til now I've been using the Panasonic 12-35 and 35-100 zooms (with a variable ND when needed) on an Indisystem shoulder rig (with TV Logic 5.6" monitor when needed). I would like to have the option to add a Matte Box and single sided Follow Focus. Does anyone have suggestions for quality, light weight MB and FF that would work well with these primes and possibly also the zooms?

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Foe Sale: SLRMagic Anamorphot 50 x1.33 with diopter set https://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/12187/foe-sale-slrmagic-anamorphot-50-x1.33-with-diopter-set Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:18:56 +0000 Tobsen 12187@/talks/discussions Hardly used and in great condition. No scratches.

Comes with lens adapter rings (52, 58,62mm), 0.33 and 1.33 Diopter lenses and original packaging.

Note: This is the normal version there are few tiny dust particles inside the lens. SLR MAgic offers a version that is 100% garanteed dust-free but for a higher price. I owned their really expensive 50mm T0.95 once and it came with a big speck of dust right in the middle of the back lens element! Yet, not visible on camera.

Since it really does not affect image quality visibly, I chose this version. Price 775,- incl. VAT. If you have a company I can write a invoice with separate VAT.

Location: Bremen, Germany.

Shipping &insurance not included.

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