"However where I feel the A65 wins is...

- CHEAP!! £699 in the UK compared to £1300 for the A77, but same great OLED viewfinder, same sensor, same image processor, 95% of the same features but a plastic body
- Handling. I prefer the bigger body to the NEX 5N really"

I stopped reading here. You compare A65 to GH2 and then start doing all kind of other comparisons. Sony camera's suck because they are always crippled by Sony in a very brutal way. I told you this with the announcement, and it still rings true. I will never buy a Sony consumer product. And in body OIS drives up the heat so you can't shoot longer than x amount of minutes, it is even in the manual.

@mimirsan
Did I say the GH2 was beter? No. Every manufacturer limits products but Sony is the worst of all of them. They have fucked me over and over again by giving me great features, but never making them useful, because they come with an AUTO thing that you can't control or no manual control. It's my PERSONAL VIEW.

You completely miss my point. A65 - GH2 comparison and then he goes comparing them to the A77 and NEX5. I am getting tired with all these stupid camera comparisons. Cheap tricks to get visitors to your site. I am getting tired of Philip Bloom, EOSHD and all these other 'objective' sites. Their only after advertising money from the big manufacturers of cameras and gear. They claim to be objective, spend a lot of their 'free' time yet they get every camera or tool for free, saving them tons of money, go on free trips... all to get you buy the latest and greatest in filmmaking. Gears don't make you a filmmaker, practice and theory does. And how many articles do these guys write on that? Not much, as they can't make any money with that.

As mentioned in the other thread, it is quite pathetic that so many people need to justify their purchase with a stupid shoot-out. I bought my GH2 because I like the image, and I liked what I saw on Vimeo and this forum, shoot by ordinary people like me. No shoot-out will change my opinion.

Go find your 'objectivity' else where @mimirsan. You won't find it with EOSHD or PB. They change their view each time they get a new goodie from camera- and gear manufacturers. If you want to be a filmmaker, you better spend your time shooting great stuff instead of reviewing an chasing stupid camera gear. New gear won't make you a better filmmaker, as proven by all the shit on Vimeo. Bokeh porn, timelapses... all looking the same. Let me know when the first GH2 or NEX7 movie wins at a filmfestival.

Sohus
I agree with a lot of what you said...im no fan of these comparisons at all...and can be easily tricked in favour of a certain product.
Thats why I say "at least" as I find eoshd to be generally favouring more on GH than any other camera for videowork.

But it seemed you were offended that the GH2 is being compared to Sony cameras and commented that you stopped reading when he got to "Sony wins on"

I dont find much objectivity here either Sohus. Its either GH2 or the highway.

@PixCanFly Is that Charles Lim's film with the GH2 and Iscorama? I've chatted to him before, great guy and very talented!

@sohus Few corrections: The body IS is electronic not mechanical or OIS during video recording. It only heats up enough to stop recording in 40c heat after a 13 minutes continuous clip. Stop and start like a normal user does and it is ok. Below that, say at 30c it is fine for long clips. I'd love it if Sony 'gave me a goodie' but I bought the A65 with my own money and have the receipt to prove it. If you had read EOSHD all year (hard to imagine you doing that) you'd see the utter rage I dished on Sony for their lack of 24p, no manual control and poor codecs until the NEX 5N came out. It really is not nice when someone attacks your integrity as a filmmaker. I shoot because I like cinematography and I am interested in the technology. Sure there will always be the conspiracy theories but that is to misunderstand what a blog is all about, which is to share my opinions and footage.

A65 or any vdslr would need to have enthusiastic support from strong userbase. GH1 already had a good userbase before GH13. Other m43 bodies except GH2 got the trickle-down benefit from GH13. Only good final artifacts shared in Vimeo will purshade more people to join in. That would be very time consuming process while GH community would grow and pump out more fantatic artifacts. I'm not saying GH "gear" is better than those new shiny "gears". A noob can join in GH forums and learn lots of goodies from experienced film makers and start shooting in short time. This whole "package" is very enticing, and it's fun to be a part of it. As far as I know, there has been no filming community forum dedicated to Sony dslr gears. I don't mind learning about new products though. Keep up the good work, Mr. EosHd.

Speaking as a former Minolta digital camera owner (which took great photos), I feel that Sony just wants me to feel bad. They have plenty of money and know-how, and they use it to just string me along.

@whoopteedoobuckaroo Yep, you said a mouthful. I haven't heard reference to "tester 13" in quite a while. Makes me proud to be a member here! THESE are quite the days, because those were quite the days ...as you said. My play for the next BT (big thing) is the Pentax K-01. It too is mirrorless and has the new sony CMOS ...but firmware is Pentax. Pentax is using the same encryption it always used, not the Sony lock-up mess. We have a chance with it. Damn good sensor and uses manual lens from the M-42 era on...

Bubba, you are right. I must get one of those K-01zes... I feel the same way about being on this forum. Maybe one of the very best things about the k-01 is that V. has a soft spot for Pentax, as do I, and he owns a lot of Pentax glass, as do I. My two main worries are that it is "A bridge too far" and once you have to buy a breakout box for audio and hack the live view settings, the point becomes moot. I also hope it doesn't use that shitty sony 16mp sensor that overheats after 15-20 minutes as per Ebacherville. Pentax made a big deal about leaving Samsung for Sony, and Samsung's new shizzle be for rizzle, or so I'm led to believe.

But not to suck off the main mod worse than I have already, V. is motive No. 1 to buy the k-01 in my personal view. :p

My A65 never locked up on me and was a great middle ground for stills and video for me until I took advantage of Amazon's $500 GH2 sale and saw for myself how much better the video is. Although the gap is bridged a bit when you're watching compressed comparisons on youtube.

Said A65(along with all my minolta glass) is on auction right now actually. This will likely fund more audio equipment and rails for the GH2