I am starting new series about building PC that you can use (tablet related one will come slightly later), and for first part we'll look at the retail PCs and see that is wrong with them. I mostly focus on principles, so you won't see many names, brands, models, MHz, etc.
Most retail PC configurations sucks.
I am serious. Look only on top of the range, as below you can find such strange things like top CPU, little memory, horrible or even lack of GPU all of this paired with small slow HDD, all in blinking red-blue case. Such monsters come to life due to simple fact - it is also business. Every company is interested to throw maximum of junk and sell it for highest price possible.
Common things that sucks the most in every retail PC
General parts:
Power stuff:
Storage
Now we go to the PC components itself:
Next part will be about places for getting stuff.
Provide you input, if you agree/ do not agree with something.
HP Z series are good CPUs, with good components. I don´t know about the Lenovos ThinkCentre... anyone?
It is more about general principles that live for years :-) I highly doubt "good components" part as they always cut on something, and usually cut on all.
Sample of mouse you do not want :-)
I am a Mac user but I am sick of the bullshit, and the very expansive prices, so I'm thinking about building a PC. so any thoughts? components? My need I guess are like everyone in this forum. Editing (4k now), Color Grading, and a little bit of AE. Thank you in advance for your help.
I am a Mac user but I am sick of the bullshit, and the very expansive prices, so I'm thinking about building a PC. so any thoughts? components?
It is just wrong topic to ask it. We have special topics for this, including GPU selection and such, check them out.
Next parts will be also not about brands but about principles that hold for many many years, just focused on all important PC building blocks.
@Aksel if you can do the software installation of a Hackintosh, it's worth doing in this age of expensive thunderbolt trashcans. If you can't, you have still bought yourself the components for a very nice PC: http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/4150/the-definitive-hackintosh-topic/p14
Thanks for the article @Vitaliy_Kiselev
I built my own PCs for several years, always sourcing the best components that were available at the time - usually it was an Asus motherboard, always a higher end Intel CPU, Soundblasters, nVideo cards, Corsair ram, 500+ watt quality power, etc etc.
But after awhile, I found the performance gap closing with highend retail, and the cost difference dropped significantly. So after I had one more component die, or had to reinstall a driver for the 100th time from a CD I couldn't find in a desk drawer, I'd had enough of the whole "build it" routine. Drove to a computer retailer and bought a high-end HP workstation. I'm still using it years later, and the only part I've ever replaced was upgrading the Geforce card.
I think doing your own build does give you lots of options, and allows you to customize things that an OEM may not consider as critical. But at times, it can also feel like a part-time job at a computer repair store. While it was fun in the beginning - the learning and doing - I've no patience nor time for it anymore. And my experience with high-end HP and Dell workstations has been quite good... so for the moment, I'm staying out of the "where's my tube of ArcticSilver" game. ;)
But at times, it can also feel like a part-time job at a computer repair store. While it was fun in the beginning - the learning and doing - I've no patience nor time for it anymore. And my experience with high-end HP and Dell workstations has been quite good... so for the moment, I'm staying out of the "where's my tube of ArcticSilver" game. ;)
Do you also build custom PCs for firms? Like 100-200 a year? No?
In reality, building PC is super easy and fast task. btw, I even do not remember last time I reinstalled driver from CD or used CDs at all.
Also, it is fully ok to go an "buy a high-end HP workstation", but this series is not for guys who do it.
I built my own PCs for several years, always sourcing the best components that were available at the time - usually it was an Asus motherboard, always a higher end Intel CPU, Soundblasters, nVideo cards, Corsair ram, 500+ watt quality power, etc etc.
:-)
I usually copy the drivers to a folder just in case and throw the cd in back in the box. With imaging software, normally I do not have to install drivers over and over unless I do a componant change or install a new OS.
Do you also build custom PCs for firms? Like 100-200 a year? No?
No, but I think you know I was using a bit of exaggerated humor to make a point. ;)
In reality, building PC is super easy and fast task.
This is very true. Once you know the process, it certainly is. And for awhile I enjoyed it... but when that time passed, it was just a task to keep it updated or running. I wanted to spend more time USING a computer, not upgrading or troubleshooting another component.
Sort of like owning a classic car, I guess. If you love turning a wrench - great hobby. If you really dont, then prepare to pay a mechanic or don't buy a classic car.
Also, it is fully ok to go an "buy a high-end HP workstation", but this series is not the guys who do it.
Fair enough. :)
HP and Dell building some nice boxes, but - like Apple - you also pay a lot for the brand sticker.
Here was my shopping list for a video workstation in the neighborhood of 3000 bucks.
Add a nice housing, cooler, and a beefy power supply to it, and call it a day.
Frank, topic is about principles, not about lists, so removed.
The principle is, you need to look at the sort of material you want to use (R3d has different needs than CineDNG or AVC) and the workflow you need - than choose your components accordingly. Dell, Apple and HP out of the box, don't get that specific. And there is no "one-does-it-all" machine. Best thing you can get is a ether a super specialized to the T computer, or at least something well balanced.
I even built a Hackintosh rather than a Mac Pro about 5 years ago. Built it on SSD, i5, 16GB and a solid GPU HD5770. In terms of price (apple hardware) nothing could even get close, like 1/2 price. Sure it didn't have the build or component quality, but the time span these things fail, they're probably obsolete anyway.
Laptops I find a bit different. Build quality is a bit more important as they're slung around everywhere.
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